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Jasonmorris
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| I am gonna pm you my number incase you have that muffler |
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Bug-nut
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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I'm sorry Everett I was meaning the old rusted one that was on my engine when I bought it.
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EverettB 
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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| Also I'm pretty sure it was a replacement because it didn't have the VW stamped on the end caps. In fact it doesn't have any stamping or markings anywhere on it |
If you mean the Wolfsburg West muffler then Yes, they don't sell ones with the VW stamps - those are real ones and are NLA.
They do show up in the classifieds from time to time, both NOS and used.
Here's one NOS
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1880438
I think that might be in Euros? 795 Euros = $893 US right now
I could be wrong but I think that price is about double the current value.
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Bug-nut
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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Gotcha. Let me dig it out of my old parts pile and see if it's in good enough shape for that. I'll get back with you
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Jasonmorris
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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| I just need one that is in one pice to use so I can jet my jtube welded up. Till I get the cash to order a new one. I just need to borrow for a day or .2. Having to put a jtube in ine of my stale air boxes. |
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Bug-nut
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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Also I'm pretty sure it was a replacement because it didn't have the VW stamped on the end caps. In fact it doesn't have any stamping or markings anywhere on it
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Bug-nut
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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I believe I still have it however it's totally rusted out beyond repair 
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Jasonmorris
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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| Hey Bug-Nut Do you still have your old muffler |
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Bug-nut
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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I bought my 36 hp muffler from Wolfsburg West and I'll be honest I liked it however if you buy one from them you might want to strip the paint off that they ship it to you in and paint it with some good quality high temperature paint. It fit very well and sounds pretty good however the paint isn't holding up well at all. I'm not too concerned about it because I daily drive it however if it were a show car it would be a problem. Then again if it were a show car I would have tracked down a more expensive genuine OEM VW muffler...
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Eric&Barb
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Here is an image of a 36 HP muffler just to be clear for any future reference. The heat riser tube gaskets are same for 20, 25, & 36 HP.
The only exception to this was the "Bastard 40 HP" engine, which was really a 36 HP engine with 40 HP improvements like separate gen stand, longer 40 HP crankshaft and internals, 40 HP muffler, and only used in the bus from MAY59 thru JUNE60.
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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| Bought it from a local guy. He thought it was a 36 |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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| I guess that is good news. |
Very! Did you request a 36 HP muffler from them or stated it as a 1200 engine? 36 & 40 HP are both 1200cc engines so easy to mix them up if you go by size.
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Jasonmorris
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:10 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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| I guess that is good news. |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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Bingo! 40 HP. See how the bolt holes in the heat riser make a kind of "D" pattern in relation to the opening of the heater pipe. 40 HP has the pipe hole directly between the bolt holes in a diamond seal shape.
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Jasonmorris
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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Show this area of the muffler without the heat riser in the way.
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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That looks more like a 40hp muffler to me.
Lower tubes for #1 and #3 pipes are too short.
Heat riser manifold flange should be shaped more like your intake manifold flanges with the bolt holes offset from the heat hole.
#2 and #4 flanges are set wider on a 40hp, just enough to cause problems such as you are having.
Overall look of the can is 40hp. |
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Jasonmorris
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Jasonmorris
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Exhaust in my 56 |
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| Ok so i pulled the bottom stud out of heach head to slide the muffler on. Nothing comes close. Heatrisers do not line up, bottom stud holes do not line up ordoes the Jtube it is to low does not line up with muffler. |
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Jasonmorris
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