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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

@ tissyfit ...

Good job on rewire !

Popping on acceleration is usually too lean or vacuum leak & on deceleration is normally an exhaust leak.

Carburetor linkage & air/fuel syncing is fiddly.
Tons of YT vids, some better than others.

1641cc, dual carbs, & cam - you should start a dedicated thread in the '68&Up or Performance section as you will likely get more views from highly experienced people.

Good luck ... stay safe

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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I did finally get the rewire on my 74 VW Beetle complete and it started WHOOHOOO! Now it backfires constantly. Made a mistake and had someone try to adjust carbs (way worse!) I am doing spark plugs distributor cap and all.

I have never worked on a beetle air cooled. Scary!


This is important, and often screwed up by rookies
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Another stupid question. I did finally get the rewire on my 74 VW Beetle complete and it started WHOOHOOO! Now it backfires constantly. Made a mistake and had someone try to adjust carbs (way worse!) I am doing spark plugs distributor cap and all. the engine isn't the stock it has a 1641cc duel Solex 40 carbs and a racing camshaft. Is there anything I should know before starting on everything? I have never worked on a beetle air cooled. Scary! but I never thought I would be able to rewire a car either but I did. I have watched a lot of videos bought a timing light and going to buy a snail for carb adjust. I don't know anyone near me to give me pointers or tips. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Now just wait for parts to show up and my next days off work.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Are you asking if a Type 4 based engine can be put in you Beetle the answer is yes. Is it an easy swap? Sort of, it is a costly swap. Will all your tin, manifold, exhaust from you Beetle fit? Nope.

The Type 4 engine can be converted to an upright cooled system like the Type 1, the articles Cusser directed you to will provide lots of answers you need. Plus there is good reading on this site and Shop Talk Forums, just search Converting Type 4 Engine To Upright, or similar words, that should get you heading into a very dark world. I have done the conversion and my best guess in todays dollars all the bits and pieces will set you back about $3,500.00 +/-.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Not sure what you’re trying to say or get at??? I think it’s a simple question???
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Will a type 2 1700 engine block work for an engine build for my 1974 vw super beetle, I tried to find differences but I couldn’t can someone help?? And before you jump at me yes I searched the search engine and no one has asked this befor.

See Sept-November 1985 and June 1996 issues of Hot VWs magazine
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Will a type 2 1700 engine block work for an engine build for my 1974 vw super beetle, I tried to find differences but I couldn’t can someone help?? And before you jump at me yes I searched the search engine and no one has asked this befor.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

I'd check the toe in first. You can do this with a measuring tape and a helper. Pretty much the front of the tires should measure 1/8" less than at the rear; measure from the first "channel" from the outside of the tire tread.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Doing a routine brake inspection on my '73 Super, I discovered the front tires were shot. Looks like the shop I took it to for an alignment last summer after I replaced the front tie rods and ball joints f'd up the front alignment. Car doesn't pull and tracks straight so I figured all was good after I left the shop. Both front tires have worn out in the exact same pattern - on the inside. As the car sits on the ground it looks like outer 50% of the tire doesn't even contact the ground!!! Shocked Damn tires had at least 10k left on them too.

Question I have is - can I adjust this myself by rotating the camber bolt on the inner end of the control arms?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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This windshield was in the bug when I bought it and for the life of me, I can’t figure it out. Those snowflake patterns are in between the glass panes and look like they’re there on purpose.

How on earth could something like that be sold? Anyone ever see something like that?


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Looks pretty neat but no, that's not supposed to be happening. Windshields are laminated, 2 sheets of glass with safety film in between. Some kind of separation or air pockets in it. Similar to when you see cheap window tinting get air pockets. Time for a new windshield.


Thanks - Yeah I know it is toast, but that looked to me more like an intenionial pattern rather than a lamination failure, just thought was quie odd
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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I am working my way through the install of a universal painless, wiring harness. So far so good . I do have a question about the brake light switches on the master cylinder. I have three leads coming from the switches bundle together into three bayonet connectors. However, my painless harness only has a power feed and a return for the bake switch. Based on the schematic, it looks like one set of wires from the switches, feeds power to the lights, ( red/black 81) which I don’t need since that will come from the new fuse block. The other two must be power and ground, does that sound right? Thanks

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It sounds like your replacement harness does not have the half brake failure warning light like the stock '74 harness.

Anyway, ignition switched and fused power is applied to terminals 82a and the brake lights are powered by terminals 81 when the brakes are applied. This is a redundant brake light system so you have brake lights even if one half of the master cylinder fails.

K7 is the overly complex dash brake warning light system. It connects to both terminals 81a. If only one of the brake light switches works and the other stays off there will be power on the combined 81a terminals. The extra circuitry in the warning light is a test system that turns the brake warning light on when you first turn the ignition switch on (before starting the engine).


Thank you - that is very helpful. I solved the problem by trial and error - My brake system was almost dry so 0 pressure on the switch. I bled them , then tested for conectivity and bingo - found the circuit ( you are correct, the 2 redundent leads, then need to complete the circuit with the thrid)

The Painless harness had an input and output to the switch, I left the redundant lead vacant. I guess I could plug it in via pigtail
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Sloanstavern wrote:
I am working my way through the install of a universal painless, wiring harness. So far so good . I do have a question about the brake light switches on the master cylinder. I have three leads coming from the switches bundle together into three bayonet connectors. However, my painless harness only has a power feed and a return for the bake switch. Based on the schematic, it looks like one set of wires from the switches, feeds power to the lights, ( red/black 81) which I don’t need since that will come from the new fuse block. The other two must be power and ground, does that sound right? Thanks

74 super beetle

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It sounds like your replacement harness does not have the half brake failure warning light like the stock '74 harness.

Anyway, ignition switched and fused power is applied to terminals 82a and the brake lights are powered by terminals 81 when the brakes are applied. This is a redundant brake light system so you have brake lights even if one half of the master cylinder fails.

K7 is the overly complex dash brake warning light system. It connects to both terminals 81a. If only one of the brake light switches works and the other stays off there will be power on the combined 81a terminals. The extra circuitry in the warning light is a test system that turns the brake warning light on when you first turn the ignition switch on (before starting the engine).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Sloanstavern wrote:
This windshield was in the bug when I bought it and for the life of me, I can’t figure it out. Those snowflake patterns are in between the glass panes and look like they’re there on purpose.

How on earth could something like that be sold? Anyone ever see something like that?


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Looks pretty neat but no, that's not supposed to be happening. Windshields are laminated, 2 sheets of glass with safety film in between. Some kind of separation or air pockets in it. Similar to when you see cheap window tinting get air pockets. Time for a new windshield.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

This windshield was in the bug when I bought it and for the life of me, I can’t figure it out. Those snowflake patterns are in between the glass panes and look like they’re there on purpose.

How on earth could something like that be sold? Anyone ever see something like that?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

I am working my way through the install of a universal painless, wiring harness. So far so good . I do have a question about the brake light switches on the master cylinder. I have three leads coming from the switches bundle together into three bayonet connectors. However, my painless harness only has a power feed and a return for the bake switch. Based on the schematic, it looks like one set of wires from the switches, feeds power to the lights, ( red/black 81) which I don’t need since that will come from the new fuse block. The other two must be power and ground, does that sound right? Thanks

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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The plastic box is an expansion tank for fumes my guess is that the fumes possibly condense in there and return the tank or get blown back to the charcoal canister behind the rear wheel. Someone who understands these things better can pipe in.


Here is a super detailed walk through of the system.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=713211


Yep, that's the definitive one. I *always* reference folks to that, especially newbies who get bombarded by the pinheads who tell them to "just rip it out." Only thing missing is it doesn't address the later Super Beetle layout.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

vamram wrote:
The plastic box is an expansion tank for fumes my guess is that the fumes possibly condense in there and return the tank or get blown back to the charcoal canister behind the rear wheel. Someone who understands these things better can pipe in.


Here is a super detailed walk through of the system.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=713211
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

vamram wrote:
The plastic box is an expansion tank for fumes my guess is that the fumes possibly condense in there and return the tank or get blown back to the charcoal canister behind the rear wheel. Someone who understands these things better can pipe in.


That sounds right
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The plastic box is an expansion tank for fumes my guess is that the fumes possibly condense in there and return the tank or get blown back to the charcoal canister behind the rear wheel. Someone who understands these things better can pipe in.
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Has anyone mapped out what each of those lines does? I know the large hose is to vent the tank while filling it. I’d love to understand the purpose of the rest of the small lines.

The plastic vapor box with 4 small hose barbs often breaks, and the evap system was never inspected in WA. We used to connect together the lines at the left rear of the tank and run the small hose off the large vent line around past the spot for the vapor box and down the left side to the front of the tank, ending it below the tank under the car like 1961-1967 Bugs.
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