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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Hard start relay, not uncommon.

I don't use one on my 1970 or 1971.


That one looks more like a “hard to start” relay! It likely needs to be replaced. I’ve used them and not used them. The inrush current of the starter circuit is hard on switches. I’d rather add a hard start relay than replace an ignition switch that’s otherwise good. My perspective may be a bit different, since most of my Bugs have been ‘59-‘64 and OEM ignition switches haven’t been available for some time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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If I have a five prong 30 amp 12 V relay would that work?


Well ... yes if the wires are connected correctly for that relay.

This one will work, but you can probably find it for less.

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-332-Multi-Purpose-Rel...amp;sr=8-5

I'd check to be sure the starter will engage and turn when power is applied. Use a 12 gauge or larger wire as a jumper between terminals 30 and 50 on the starter solenoid to see if it engages and turns.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Hard start relay, not uncommon.

I don't use one on my 1970 or 1971.


Thanks for the tip
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

EVfun wrote:
Cusser wrote:
Hard start relay, not uncommon.

I don't use one on my 1970 or 1971.


That one looks more like a “hard to start” relay! It likely needs to be replaced. I’ve used them and not used them. The inrush current of the starter circuit is hard on switches. I’d rather add a hard start relay than replace an ignition switch that’s otherwise good. My perspective may be a bit different, since most of my Bugs have been ‘59-‘64 and OEM ignition switches haven’t been available for some time.


Thanks I will replace it
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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If I have a five prong 30 amp 12 V relay would that work?


Well ... yes if the wires are connected correctly for that relay.

This one will work, but you can probably find it for less.

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-332-Multi-Purpose-Rel...amp;sr=8-5

I'd check to be sure the starter will engage and turn when power is applied. Use a 12 gauge or larger wire as a jumper between terminals 30 and 50 on the starter solenoid to see if it engages and turns.


Thanks , when I test fired the engine , wired the starter direct, bypassed the ignition switch and she fires strong. I will try a new relay, if no joy, Ill look at the ignition switch itself
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Probably common knowledge, but my bug came missing a few things. Can someone tell me what size bolts to use for:

1) The license plate.
2) The fresh air box knob mount.

Thanks. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Probably common knowledge, but my bug came missing a few things. Can someone tell me what size bolts to use for:

1) The license plate



Carriage bolts, 1/4" thread
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

I removed my frozen rear wheel cylinder and compared the cast-in logo to the replacement ATE cylinder. Rome was right, the old frozen cylinder is ATE.

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I don't want to throw away anything that might be original to the car. I'd like to rebuild the frozen ATE cylinder for use as a spare.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

khangames wrote:
Probably common knowledge, but my bug came missing a few things. Can someone tell me what size bolts to use for:

2) The fresh air box knob mount.

Thanks. Smile

If anyone stumbles upon this later, the answer is M6x1.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:53 pm    Post subject: "Independent Rear Suspension" (IRS) Reply with quote

Pardon me, but I sometimes wonder about the dumbest things so I thought this was the best thread.

As I recall, VW always bragged about their "Independent torsion bar suspension" as a selling point starting with all the bugs and other air-cooled vehicles they made.

In this forum (and other sources) you refer to only the articulated drive axle as "IRS" when the older, straight axle was still, technically, independently suspended and therefore "IRS" as well! What gives?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

All Bugs do have an independent rear suspension but we need some way to separate them for discussion. So, convention is to call the older design "swingaxle" and the newer style IRS. The later design looks like the IRS suspension familiar to most people.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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I don't want to throw away anything that might be original to the car. I'd like to rebuild the frozen ATE cylinder for use as a spare.

Wheel cylinders are quite simple, and little hones for them are inexpensive.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Wheel cylinders are quite simple, and little hones for them are inexpensive.


I still need to get the Bug off the lift, torque the big castle nut etc., and give it a road test. So I haven't had time to take the old cylinder apart. But I know this much: both plungers on the frozen cylinder won't slide and they won't rotate. Is there a good technique to get frozen plungers out of the cylinder body?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam?


You'd need to attach some type of wind deflector across the front of the rack. Wrapping it just creates more surface area for the air to contend with resulting in more wind noise.
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What kind of gear oil is green/turquoise in color?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam?


You'd need to attach some type of wind deflector across the front of the rack. Wrapping it just creates more surface area for the air to contend with resulting in more wind noise.

Thanks. Anything I can buy or do I have to make one? I work at a plastics distribution warehouse. I can probably make one out of acrylic or polycarb.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Is there a way to reduce the wind noise from the roof rack? Maybe wrap it in tape or foam?


You'd need to attach some type of wind deflector across the front of the rack. Wrapping it just creates more surface area for the air to contend with resulting in more wind noise.

Thanks. Anything I can buy or do I have to make one? I work at a plastics distribution warehouse. I can probably make one out of acrylic or polycarb.


Something along this line would probably work:

https://www.amazon.com/LT-Sport-Fairing-Carrier-De...1f14d7f644

I looked at your bug in your gallery. The rack is a bit tall. Maybe you could use the one on Amazon as a base/foundation and fabricate a larger deflector to attach to it. I don't know of any place that sells one specifically for the racks that go on Bugs.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Something along this line would probably work:

https://www.amazon.com/LT-Sport-Fairing-Carrier-De...1f14d7f644

I looked at your bug in your gallery. The rack is a bit tall. Maybe you could use the one on Amazon as a base/foundation and fabricate a larger deflector to attach to it. I don't know of any place that sells one specifically for the racks that go on Bugs.

The plastic is the easy part. I just need to devise some brackets to mount it. I could probably make it work to help when the sunroof is, too.
Or just live with the noise.
I don't know yet how much louder it will be with the sunroof open.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

mikeonthebike wrote:
OldSchoolVW's wrote:


Something along this line would probably work:

https://www.amazon.com/LT-Sport-Fairing-Carrier-De...1f14d7f644

I looked at your bug in your gallery. The rack is a bit tall. Maybe you could use the one on Amazon as a base/foundation and fabricate a larger deflector to attach to it. I don't know of any place that sells one specifically for the racks that go on Bugs.

The plastic is the easy part. I just need to devise some brackets to mount it. I could probably make it work to help when the sunroof is, too.
Or just live with the noise.
I don't know yet how much louder it will be with the sunroof open.

Mr. Jimbug57's solution: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight=

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