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66 dormi Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:12 pm Post subject: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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I got this pertronix laying around from a previous project 1847 I’d like to find out if I can run this in my 1966 1300 based 1600cc single port
I like the stock distributor it does the job well and my bus really goes for a bus that is so if I can just pop that in instead if questionable Bosch points that would be great!
pertronix wants me to buy their distributor and like I said I’m happy with my stock 1300 distributor
Any thoughts?? _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
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busman78 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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If it is the 1847A kit it will drop right in, that is the kit for the 009/050. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12815 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:50 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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Is the 1300 distributor a vacuum only like the 1500 distributor? If so you will not have any advance at all. That would be a HUGE step backward! I am running a 1500 carb and matching vacuum only distributor on my 1641 SP and could not be happier. Good power and great drivability.
Yes I bought a Pertronics III distributor for another engine and it failed in only 8 months. Here is what I learned. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711733&highlight=
Quite frankly if I were you, I would leave well enough alone. Most aftermarket distributors these days create more problems than they fix. Touching up the points with a point file and resetting the gap and timing is a 15 to 20 minute job that unless you are daily driving them only needs doing once every couple of years. If daily driving then maybe twice a year at the very most, not a big deal! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 77038 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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oprn wrote: |
Is the 1300 distributor a vacuum only like the 1500 distributor? |
Actually we don't know until he posts the part number. It could be a 009. _________________ Glenn
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12815 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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Glenn wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Is the 1300 distributor a vacuum only like the 1500 distributor? |
Actually we don't know until he posts the part number. It could be a 009. |
If so it would not be the stock distributor. Those came on the industrial engines... no? _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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Is your Bus 6 volt or 12 volt? There are different Pertronix units for each. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 77038 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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oprn wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Is the 1300 distributor a vacuum only like the 1500 distributor? |
Actually we don't know until he posts the part number. It could be a 009. |
If so it would not be the stock distributor. Those came on the industrial engines... no? |
That's assuming he knows what the stock distributor should be. _________________ Glenn
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66 dormi Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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[quote="oprn"]Is the 1300 distributor a vacuum only like the 1500 distributor? If so you will not have any advance at all. That would be a HUGE step backward! I am running a 1500 carb and matching vacuum only distributor on my 1641 SP and could not be happier. Good power and great drivability.
Yes I bought a Pertronics III distributor for another engine and it failed in only 8 months. Here is what I learned. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=711733&highlight=
Quite frankly if I were you, I would leave well enough alone. Most aftermarket distributors these days create more problems than they fix. Touching up the points with a point file and resetting the gap and timing is a 15 to 20 minute job that unless you are daily driving them only needs doing once every couple of years. If daily driving then maybe twice a year at the very most, not a big deal![/quote]
Yes it’s the same vacuum one caps a little different to the one I had on my 1500 I haven’t researched a replacement cap and rotor for it yet nor the points will have to get the model number it looks different might just be a 1300 thing _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
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66 dormi Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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vwracerdave wrote: |
Is your Bus 6 volt or 12 volt? There are different Pertronix units for each. |
12volt now _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
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66 dormi Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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Glenn wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Is the 1300 distributor a vacuum only like the 1500 distributor? |
Actually we don't know until he posts the part number. It could be a 009. |
If so it would not be the stock distributor. Those came on the industrial engines... no? |
That's assuming he knows what the stock distributor should be. |
Good point what is the stock distributor on a 1300? This motor is now a 1600 who knows what else was changed out ! _________________ DORMOBILE TOP WANTED!!!!
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 77038 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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66 dormi wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Is the 1300 distributor a vacuum only like the 1500 distributor? |
Actually we don't know until he posts the part number. It could be a 009. |
If so it would not be the stock distributor. Those came on the industrial engines... no? |
That's assuming he knows what the stock distributor should be. |
Good point what is the stock distributor on a 1300? This motor is now a 1600 who knows what else was changed out ! |
What is the engine serial number and what carb is on it? _________________ Glenn
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heimlich VWNOS.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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What distributor do you have? _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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There is a chart on this site somewhere that gives you all the matching carb and distributor numbers that correspond to year of manufacture. I just don't see it at the moment. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6375 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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The early vacuum only distributors used a brass post for mounting the points which are not interchangeable with the 009 points design. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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The chart is in the technical tab under miscellaneous titled Bosch tune up parts. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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gatordub Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2018 Posts: 46 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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I'm running a Pertronix 1849 on my Bosch 205k distributor. I contacted Pertronix and this is the kit they said would fit. My distributor advances without any issues. |
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PWB Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2019 Posts: 99 Location: PA
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Posted: Yesterday 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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For whatever it's worth, I installed the 1847V into my bosch 205T, and it wasn't "drop in" per se:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=778842&highlight=
I read somewhere at some point that Bob Hoover recommended electronic points, so that's why i was interested in trying them personally.
I've heard failures are common these days though, although I haven't personally experienced any.
Given how easy it is to clean/adjust points, and how my kit didn't just "drop" in, I'd probably just save my money and stick with points in the future.
As a side note, I'd also heard that points and condenser quality it's what is used to be too, although I cannot speak to any person experience on that. |
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Erik G Samba Member
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Posted: Yesterday 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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what's even funnier is all of you talking about a 009 that are going to confuse this guy if he looks and finds 009 in the numbers on his '66 1300 only short body fat cap vacuum advance distributor...
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Yesterday 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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Erik G wrote: |
what's even funnier is all of you talking about a 009 that are going to confuse this guy if he looks and finds 009 in the numbers on his '66 1300 only short body fat cap vacuum advance distributor...
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Correct. the original distributor is a 0231 137 009 which is vacuum only. A 0231 178 009 is mechanical only. _________________ Glenn
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heimlich VWNOS.com
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Posted: Yesterday 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Will pertronix work in the 1300 distributor’ |
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Glenn wrote: |
Erik G wrote: |
what's even funnier is all of you talking about a 009 that are going to confuse this guy if he looks and finds 009 in the numbers on his '66 1300 only short body fat cap vacuum advance distributor...
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Correct. the original distributor is a 0231 137 009 which is vacuum only. A 0231 178 009 is mechanical only. |
Correct. Correct. The 0 231 137 009 is an SVA distributor. There are many other distributors with 009 in the Bosch number. _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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