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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 593 Location: Florida Space Coast
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:13 pm Post subject: 2000cc engine with 002 bellhousing starter wont engage flywheel |
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I am repairing a 2 liter engine and I am trying to get it to crank over out of the bus.
I have what at I think is a 002 transmissions bellhousing and a starter from a bug 1600 which I started using a bug swingaxle transmissions bellhousing.
The end of the starter shaft barely enters the starter support bushing in the 002.
I hear the bendix engage and the starter motor spin but I think the teeth never engage.
If I have a mismatch with the teeth I think I would hear it grind and see t on the gears.
I have 3 starters and all 3 appear to have the same length snout.
Am I making a mistake about something? _________________ 1974 Standard Beetle to Baja Bug
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timvw7476 Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2013 Posts: 2214 Location: seattle
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: 2000cc engine with 002 bellhousing starter wont engage flywheel |
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002 has its own starter dimensions/ratings. + one with extra tenth of a hp for the torque convertor on the automatic models. IIRC. That's probably the issue. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 17006 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: 2000cc engine with 002 bellhousing starter wont engage flywheel |
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Get a starter for a late bus. Been there before _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:50 am Post subject: Re: 2000cc engine with 002 bellhousing starter wont engage flywheel |
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Sounds like the bellhousing is from a 091 transmission, so as mentioned you would need a matching starter. Somewhere out there is a post showing the dimensions of the various Type 4 bellhousings. |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2003 Posts: 593 Location: Florida Space Coast
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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: 2000cc engine with 002 bellhousing starter wont engage flywheel |
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Thanks everyone, that was it. I had used the only 091 part I had, I thought it was a 002 because of the 2 top mounting ears.
I should have looked at the part number.
Like everyone said, the starter mount is ~1cm farther from the flywheel than the others.
And of course I had 3 short drive gear starters.
The 2000cc cranked over when I used a 002 trans to mount the starter.
Now I need to find another bell housing to use, will a bug IRS work?
Thanks again _________________ 1974 Standard Beetle to Baja Bug
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