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Kwright13
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 Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:10 pm Post subject: Cheap rebuild options |
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| Hey everyone! I’m looking for the cheapest solution to rebuild my 1600cc dual port. I’m obviously not looking for the BEST option as that’s not ever the cheapest option haha. Trying to decide if getting the JBugs rebuild kit at like $500 is the best option for this or if I should try to find a motor from another car on maybe Facebook marketplace or something for cheap. The car is knocking now and I don’t know for sure yet the cause but if I spun a bearing a will most likely need a new crank as well which will add to that $500 jbugs kit. Thought? Does anyone localish maybe have a motor for sale? I’m located in the Shenandoah valley and willing to travel a little as well. Just trying to stay on a budget that’s all. Thanks! |
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jeffrey8164 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Cheap rebuild options |
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Gotta tear it down to find out.
Maybe you just need a rod and some machine work. Rings and a hone if you want.
Maybe just a gear tooth is causing the noise.
No idea what comes in the J-Bugs kit but it could contain everything except the parts you actually need.
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67rustavenger
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| Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Cheap rebuild options |
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OP, if you're dead set on a cheap build. Read this thread and maybe you can save a few dollars.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=513083&highlight=grapes+of+wrath
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Kwright13
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Location: Virginia
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| Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Cheap rebuild options |
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| Awesome! Thanks guys, I will move forward with tearing it down 😁 |
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Dusty1
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| Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Cheap rebuild options |
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I would look up a $300 "core" motor. Sounds like you'll need a crank and rods, anyway. Hassle is some people think their $300 core motor is worth $1500. Other hassle is some low buck motors are low buck for good reason.
I would do it a la carte buying parts as I need them rather than blowing my meagre budget on a $500 rebuild kit. Like I said I would start with a core that (hopefully) doesn't knock. I would buy a decent set of used heads. I've done the Third World hone and re- ring trick many times with good success.
I would rather keep my old German pistons and cylinders and save the $300 shipped new pistons and cylinders cost.
Where is that post about a mechanic out West who pocketed $900 on each refresh, re- seal and only made $200 on a proper rebuild?
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Glenn
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| Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Cheap rebuild options |
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Buying cheap parts is not the cheapest option. When they break, it will cost more than if you did it right the first time.
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Dusty1
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| Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Cheap rebuild options |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| Buying cheap parts is not the cheapest option. When they break, it will cost more than if you did it right the first time. |
You can't buy a new "stock replacement" crankshaft equal to original German.
What keeps our "hobby" alive almost 50 years after the last Bug was oficially imported to the U.S....
...is the inevitable box, bin or shelf full of spare parts. That's why we have swap meets. That's why we have TheSamba Classifieds. I maintain we can rebuild and restore better and for less money by tapping the stash of barrels, bins, boxes and buckets instead of point and click, add it to The Permanent Debt on your credit card.
That's why I have a few dozen ACVW engines ranging from a '73 with 40k original, a '66 that's right in that range as well as 20+ more likely rebuildable.
Biggest challenge is what is going to happen to all this stuff when I'm gone.
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agramer1966
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| Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Cheap rebuild options |
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| Dusty1 wrote: |
| Glenn wrote: |
| Buying cheap parts is not the cheapest option. When they break, it will cost more than if you did it right the first time. |
You can't buy a new "stock replacement" crankshaft equal to original German.
What keeps our "hobby" alive almost 50 years after the last Bug was oficially imported to the U.S....
Biggest challenge is what is going to happen to all this stuff when I'm gone.
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I know what's gonna happen to mine. My kids will put everything in garbage.
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