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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

Saturn wrote:
This is one experience I had over the summer buying a container if ice cream (unfortunately, I cannot remember the exact brand.) It was labeled as "ice cream" and not a "frozen dairy desert." Behind my shop space is a hillside covered in blackberries which arrive with a vengeance in mid-July. On the way home bought the ice cream and was unexpectedly delayed by a traffic accident. When finally getting it in the freezer, the sides of the container were a bit squishy/flexible.

Later in the evening removed the ice cream and the sides had firmed up. Opening up the top for the first time, a bit puzzled to find the volume inside was about 80% of what is normally packed into a container. Figured this shrinkage was due to the whipped air integrated into the processing of the product.

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Next time you buy ice cream, tap the bottom of the carton and see if it sounds hollow. Some manufacturers (maybe most?) freeze the cartons upside down after they are filled, so they look full when you open them.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

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You need to freeze the bowl with the magic liquid overnight. The liquid is in between the walls of the bowl. I keep one in a freezer ready to go. The beauty of this machine. Pour in the ingredients and it’s done in 20 minutes. Stiffer ice cream. Set it in the freezer for an hour or more. You can also add fruit and other crap in it as it churns.

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We have that exact ice cream maker, it works very well.

Home made ice cream without the mess of ice, rock salt and the brine to dispose of.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

Neighbors dropped by with Hors d'oeuvres. Ice cream churning.

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And some coffee after
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

Interesting read on "skimpflation" that even mentions Breyer's:
https://www.businessinsider.com/inflation-high-pri...ty-2023-12
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

I saw something on the BBC today about how a major ice cream maker is reformulating to allow storage at warmer temperatures, they have quite a few million display freezers in stores and a little increase in freezer temperature makes them heroes with the save the planet greenie crowd, uses less energy. Maybe others are F'ng with it in a similar manner?

I'd post a link but news feeds are blocked in Canada, the show was called "Click".
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

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I saw something on the BBC today about how a major ice cream maker is reformulating to allow storage at warmer temperatures, they have quite a few million display freezers in stores and a little increase in freezer temperature makes them heroes with the save the planet greenie crowd, uses less energy. Maybe others are F'ng with it in a similar manner?

I'd post a link but news feeds are blocked in Canada, the show was called "Click".


I think this is it Busdaddy Wink


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

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Kinda looks like our Tillamook vanilla ice cream is keeping it relatively real -

Cream, Skim Milk, Milk, Sugar, Pastuerized Egg Yolks, Vanilla Extract, Tara Gum, Guar Gum, Vanilla Bean, Natural Flavor.

Dang it, Xargaret, now I gotta go get some Tillymonk Oregon Dark Cherry Ice Cream......or maybe Peaches and Cream


Umpqua as well. My Kryptonite is Umpqua Mudslide ice cream once in awhile. It really ought to come with a complimentary insulin shot, but NO HFCS and real ice cream.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

Hate to burst bubbles but :

Product is sold by weight, not volume.
Examples I used to fret about - cereal and chips.

"New and improved" could mean a whole lotta things, usually in the favor of the manufacturer, shipper, wholesaler, retailer, etc.

Retailers put the "staples" at the rearmost area or off in a corner, wanting you to go past other items they hope you will purchase. They change the location of items regularly to interrupt your shopping routine ; think "plan-a-gram". I hated those back in '84 when I worked at a grocery store.
Between convincing us to buy in bulk or piping air from the bakery & dumping it at the entrance among many other sneaky/clever schemes some of us don't stand a chance.
Marketing is a M-F.

As to ice cream not freezing, ours gets so that it can hardly be scooped. We maintain airflow in our freezer - it's never over packed & the setting is not extreme.
It wouldn't surprise me to find out there was a reformulation that saves all those involved a few pennies to make it, store it, ship it, & display it.

Buyer beware ... stay safe

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

for some reason the 'click' programme is not available even in uk right now. here's an article about ben & jerrys chasing the same goal https://virginradio.co.uk/lifestyle/96796/ben-and-jerrys-develop-recipe-ice-cream-melting

meanwhile judes are cutting their 'footprint' by increasing 'plant based' ingredients. sounds innocuous but that's coconut oil, soya protein isolate and soluble corn fibre in reality. mmm - it's ice cream Jim but not as we know it.
https://bcorporation.uk/reinventing-business/by-b-lab-uk/carbon-negative-ice-cream/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

A side note on Ice Cream, the Market I work at has been having issues w/ our retail freezers, every few days it will die, the grocery staff pulls all the products,
jams them in our main walk=in freezer, and later in the day we do a taste test on the ice cream, most of the time they end up giving it to the staff, I've been bringing home Tillamook Mud slide, super good! I sure hope they get that freezer fixed... Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

[quote="Q-Dog"][quote="Saturn"] Behind my shop space is a hillside covered in blackberries which arrive with a vengeance in mid-July.
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That brings back memories! We had a farm in Tennessee and during the summer, we would put on our overalls and long sleeve shirts and pick blackberries. Those thorns would still get you though! Thanks for the memory!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

calvinater wrote:
what exactly is natural flavor?
I may be allergic!


It's a BIG list (2500+ items) of mostly bad stuff to make food taste better and more profitable...pretty scary if you ask me.

https://foodrevolution.org/blog/natural-flavors/
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

Xevin wrote:
Neighbors dropped by with Hors d'oeuvres. Ice cream churning.

Picked up one of these over the weekend on CL for $30 NIB. Our 1st ice cream maker. Made a batch of butter pecan for Christmas gathering. Mmmm... Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

II picked up Breyers with the apple pie and it was all natural ingredients

Ymmv
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

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II picked up Breyers with the apple pie and it was all natural ingredients

Ymmv


I'll bet it's less expensive by me. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

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II picked up Breyers with the apple pie and it was all natural ingredients

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

janerick3 wrote:
...I was going to college at the time the prepared food industry switched over to corn syrup. It took me years to figure out why my GPA dropped an entire point in one year. Our diet was high in carbs and my body cannot process fructose well, so I was pretty much a zombie until I graduated. I also learned caffeine does not counteract the effects of fructose.

I'm just now starting to learn all of this stuff. Why I had no energy as a teenager and throughout college. Joints hurt, tired all the time, GI issues most days. Now that I've been learning about modern "foods" and how they affect our bodies.. I've lost over 10lbs just by cutting wheat and added sugars. I'm keeping an eye out on the horizon, because you never know what debilitating illnesses will be invented in the future that we don't even recognize as diet-related.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

Lately, I’ve been making an effort to read the ingredient labels more than I used to.
It’s getting harder to find ice cream that Doesn’t have any ” Bioengineered ingredients “.
I used to enjoy Winn Dixie’s Key Lime pie ice cream, until I read this on the label. I called their toll free question line and spoke to a foreign sounding individual. I asked him What was this bioengineered ingredient, and why is it in the ice cream?
After a minute on hold, he came back telling me he couldn’t answer that question, and was there anything else he could help me with?
I told him, he Hasn’t helped with Anything so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

Probably meant GMO.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: What’s going on with ice cream? Reply with quote

A quick Google search sounds like it's GMO to me and they are including that description as it is now required.
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