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dieselboy33
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 Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:36 am Post subject: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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| Hello, can anyone tell me if the pedal assembly from a 1970 pan are the same as the pedal assembly from a 1963 pan? Thanks! |
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Bub
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:23 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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They're not the same, but they are interchangeable with a little fiddling. I believe in 70' the gas pedal bracket was part of the pedal assembly, in 63' it was welded to the floor.
There's some other minor differences, but don't think any of them prevent you from swapping them.
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Ojai63dbl
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:25 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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The pedal assembly is different for 63 (58-66) and 70 (66-79).
they can be swapped and that the 70 is considered by some to be better
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=2374883 |
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herbie1200
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:12 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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They cannot be swapped.
The cable attachment to the pedal is different.
To link a 28 PICT you need a solid cable (not wired) and, for what I know, there are no solid cable with the hook for later pedal.
Yes, later pedal assembly is better because is less "rude" in the first part of the travel, and is good also for well responding engines. |
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Bub
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:32 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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| herbie1200 wrote: |
| They cannot be swapped.. |
So, to be polite you should try to not state absolutes, this is very poor guidance. Because, YES- they in fact can be swapped like every nearly part on almost every VW ever made- it isn't specific to just one car or model and not terribly different from the prior version on an older car.
Maybe ONE very tiny modification makes swapping parts impossible for you- in this case you can just put a screw with a nut through the loop or a tiny bend in the cable end, but it most definitely CAN be done.
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dieselboy33
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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| Thank you for all of the replies, much appreciated!! |
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zerotofifty
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:13 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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Noted that 1966 is a transition year, so an early 66 Bug might have an early assembly, and late 66 Bug the late assembly. My 66 has the late assembly. Check before you buy replacement parts to avoid disappointment! PS my 66 uses the single wire accelerator cable. and has the return spring mounted on the carb, not the fan house.
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dieselboy33
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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| Hey guys, here is an extra added layer of detail. The 1963 car we are putting back together has no pedals or cable. So in reviewing this string, can I just put in a set of 70 style pedals with matching cable and call it a success? |
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AlteWagen
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herbie1200
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 3:06 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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| dieselboy33 wrote: |
| Hey guys, here is an extra added layer of detail. The 1963 car we are putting back together has no pedals or cable. So in reviewing this string, can I just put in a set of 70 style pedals with matching cable and call it a success? |
If you have the original 1963 carb (28pict) it has no return spring, so you have to use the solid cable with the spring mounted around the cable.
If you use the wired cable it cannot "push back" the butterfly valve when idling, so you have a non perfect idling.
Everything can be adapted, but be conscious about the compromising of a well working system. |
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Demelza66
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:28 am Post subject: Re: 1963 Beetle pedal assembly question |
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I thought the clutch cable tube was in a different position than later cars. The offset in the hook rod is different for sure.
Does the early shaft fit in the late assembly? Id think the offset angle would cause the cable to fail early |
That’s the problem I’m encountering. Has anyone managed this? |
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