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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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JAL78 wrote:
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Ghiagirl's Beautiful black 69 coupe which sold on BAT in Dec 2022 for $41,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-14/
has been listed on EBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126318414454?hash=item1d6...R-qwjeSvYw


Its really refreshing to see a correctly restored Ghia in one of the best colors. The results on BAT were pretty high for a coupe. I would have relisted it on BAT to get the best price. Hopefully it will do well on this resale.


Hmmm...Question: Why are they using Lisa's original pictures from her BAT listing. It could be called lazy but I'd call it the habits of a scammer.
His EBay feedback is (2).


Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd!


Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.

Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd!


Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.

Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that.

I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Ironically another black Ghia coupe just came up on BAT as this conversation ensued.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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John Moxon wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:

Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd!


Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.

Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that.

I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting.


No reply. Auction has been ended.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Marcdeb wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:
John Moxon wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:

Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd!


Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.

Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that.

I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting.


No reply. Auction has been ended.


Laughing The other clue was he's listed as a "dealer" but that was the only listing from the time he joined in 2019. Not much of a dealer. Might be interesting to follow his username to see if he uses it again. I doubt it as he obviously knows he's been identified as a scammer.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

John Moxon wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:
John Moxon wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:

Seller's profile says member since 2019 and states the seller is a dealer and that car is in El Paso Texas. BAT listing doesn't say where the buyer from 2022 is from? It is odd that there's not a single photo that is from the new owner? The mileage is listed as 38,000 which is unchanged from the BAT listing so yes, this seems very odd!


Scammers will have lots of these "username" IDs and leave them dormant for years and occasionally add their own feedback using another of their IDs.
Get one of our El Paso members like John (calexican) to ask if they can view the car.

Personally I wouldn't bid a penny on a listing like that.

I sent the Ebay seller a request for actual mileage now and what service has been done to the car since Dec 2022 when it sold on BAT. That should either get a legit reply, no reply, or some bogus answers?? Should be interesting.


No reply. Auction has been ended.


Laughing The other clue was he's listed as a "dealer" but that was the only listing from the time he joined in 2019. Not much of a dealer. Might be interesting to follow his username to see if he uses it again. I doubt it as he obviously knows he's been identified as a scammer.


Oddly, the listing says "Auction ended due to no longer available" ??? Maybe the seller will be updated as a closed account at some point??
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Oddly, the listing says "Auction ended due to no longer available" ??? Maybe the seller will be updated as a closed account at some point??


Not sure if EBay would ever admit to letting a fraudulent listing get that far so they use another generic term to explain the withdrawal.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Marcdeb wrote:

Oddly, the listing says "Auction ended due to no longer available" ??? Maybe the seller will be updated as a closed account at some point??


Not sure if EBay would ever admit to letting a fraudulent listing get that far so they use another generic term to explain the withdrawal.


I've seen that message when the seller kills the auction, usually because they got an offer outside eBay to sell but now the link is totally dead:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126318414454

This is what I have seen when other scam ads were totally pulled
It's also what comes up when the ad rolls off eBay due to age.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

New listing on BAT. No Reserve
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-convertible-28/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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New listing on BAT. No Reserve
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-convertible-28/


Thanks for posting the link Marc. No one is driving this one so it needs to go to someone who will.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

This should do really well but no reserve would make me nervous. It's absolutely beautiful. It must really turn heads when you take it out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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This should do really well but no reserve would make me nervous. It's absolutely beautiful. It must really turn heads when you take it out.


They would only give me a $20k reserve so I figured I have nothing to lose, unless of course it sells for only $19k!
People like it for sure, the color jumps out. Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Braukuche wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:
This should do really well but no reserve would make me nervous. It's absolutely beautiful. It must really turn heads when you take it out.


They would only give me a $20k reserve so I figured I have nothing to lose, unless of course it sells for only $19k!
People like it for sure, the color jumps out. Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car.


I'm sure it will far exceed $20k. It easily worth more than double that.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car.


I mentioned it in the auction, but in that freeway on ramp video I'd swear you had a larger displacement engine with how quick it looks. Makes me look forward to driving the same 1600dp and 4.12 trans combo I have in my car. I've only driven a 1600 with the 3.88.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Braukuche wrote:
Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car.


I mentioned it in the auction, but in that freeway on ramp video I'd swear you had a larger displacement engine with how quick it looks. Makes me look forward to driving the same 1600dp and 4.12 trans combo I have in my car. I've only driven a 1600 with the 3.88.


Thanks for pointing that out.
A 1600 DP is a torquey beast with a 4:12.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Help me out, in picture 95 there is a white pipe or hose. I have an original 70 coupe and I don't have anything like it. What's it for?



Braukuche wrote:
Era Vulgaris wrote:
Braukuche wrote:
Car drives so nice too. The next owner will love it, it’s a nice dialed in car.


I mentioned it in the auction, but in that freeway on ramp video I'd swear you had a larger displacement engine with how quick it looks. Makes me look forward to driving the same 1600dp and 4.12 trans combo I have in my car. I've only driven a 1600 with the 3.88.


Thanks for pointing that out.
A 1600 DP is a torquey beast with a 4:12.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Help me out, in picture 95 there is a white pipe or hose. I have an original 70 coupe and I don't have anything like it. What's it for?


Crotch coolers! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Marcdeb wrote:
New listing on BAT. No Reserve
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-convertible-28/


Thanks for posting the link Marc. No one is driving this one so it needs to go to someone who will.


omg she's back!
*insert dicaprio wolf of wall street biting fist gif*

so pretty - and the build thread is amazing.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

c23roo wrote:
Braukuche wrote:
Marcdeb wrote:
New listing on BAT. No Reserve
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-convertible-28/


Thanks for posting the link Marc. No one is driving this one so it needs to go to someone who will.


omg she's back!
*insert dicaprio wolf of wall street biting fist gif*

so pretty - and the build thread is amazing.


Thanks. Though at least one idiot thinks it’s a “corner cutting” restoration.
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