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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:09 am    Post subject: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Anyone with any suggestions on where to place a subwoofer? Thinking about powered tube under the back bench seat, but wondered if others had ideas. Thanks in advance.

Pics and/or other thoughts welcome.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

If you had one in a sealed container, you could mount it under the van & port it in, much like the rear heater.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Depends on which interior you have, but if putting it under the rear seat on an MV/Weekender, then it might make sense to attach it to the bottom of the seat itself, rather than the floor...since the entire seat rolls forward on those. The passenger seat pedestal has room for a small sub.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

This guy seemed to have it figured out. If you click "see original listing", you can check out photos of his $1200 setup with a tube under the back bench seat: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Volkswagen-EuroVan-M...663.l10137
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
The passenger seat pedestal has room for a small sub.

I have a 10" Sony subwoofer (the 5-sided driver) in a minimally-shallow box mounted in the pedestal under the front passenger seat. The volume of the box is clearly way too small, but I've been able to compensate by packing it full of cotton batting. An old MTX amp is mounted under the dash in the corner of the passenger footwell (above the plastic trim that forms the 'ceiling' of the footwell).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

My buddy recently bought a 2002 with a small sub under the passenger seat, it sounds great. I have a blaupunkt powered sub waiting to be installed under the front passenger seat as well, once I decide where/how to route the power and signal wires.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

This year I installed a Nakamichi sub under the passenger seat (which is now a swivel seat by CNC in the UK). All new speakers (infinity brand) in the doors, dash and rear. I picked up a used golf City headunit for almost nothing and ran a GREAT ebay harness. I mounted the volume control for the sub in the otherwise useless pocket above the cigarette lighter and the bluetooth adapter is there, too. The sub is powered by the house battery.

One thing, the blue LED on the sub volume control is very bright so I put a drop of black paint on it so now it more of a halo. If I could do it again, I'd swap out the blue LED for a dimmer red one.

Since the photos were taken, the trim piece under the radio has been installed and a cubby installed, too. Many thanks to the folks on the forums who routinely post great, helpful information.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-NAKAMICHI-NBF80A-8-3-...Sw4CFY7d7e

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-Volkswagen-Factory-R...Sw9ENZpXfW
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

I like your hazard relocation to add the oil gauge, that is color matched no less. They do that over in Europe to add a boost gauge there.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Thanks. The added trans temp gauge is one of the many mods I stole from more knowledgeable forum posters. Here the thread on that mod:

https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7492658...auge/page2

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

markcm2 wrote:
My buddy recently bought a 2002 with a small sub under the passenger seat, it sounds great. I have a blaupunkt powered sub waiting to be installed under the front passenger seat as well, once I decide where/how to route the power and signal wires.


While installing my webasto heater I had the front seats out so, it was time to install the powered subwoofer in the passenger seat base. Here's an outline of my steps:

1) I routed the power with the other wires under the carpet from the Driver's seat base where my AUX battery resides, over to the passenger seat base. This was the easiest part.

2) Next I routed a single RCA cable from the headunit down to the floor, I had the console out already. I lifted the carpet up from the rear the best I could although it is glued down and this was a real pain in the ass. Then I fished a straightened out coat hanger from the console back, taped the RCA cable to the coat hanger and pulled it through.

3) The blaupunkt sub is auto power switching so no remote power was needed, just the main power and the audio signal ; I tapped a ground off a seat base bolt.

4) I suspended the amp with a few straps, 1/16" x 3/4" steel from Lowes.

5) Made a few adjustments to prevent rattles and then put the seat back on.

The sound is noticeably fuller, there is definitely more bump in the passenger seat but the whole thing is pretty tame still. All in all, this was an awesome $35 ebay investment. Here are a few pictures to save on the million words:


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Links to my other eurovan stereo projects:

Sony XAV-AX100 6.4" touch screen install EV Weekender (2 DIN)
Front speaker upgrade in 01-03 Eurovan -Kenwood 6.5" KFC-P710PS
Rear speaker replacement in 93-03 Eurovan - 4" Fosgate R14x2
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Nice work, and yet another mod I have to implement in my efforts to keep up with you.

Do you ever plan on installing a swivel on that pedestal?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
Nice work, and yet another mod I have to implement in my efforts to keep up with you.

Do you ever plan on installing a swivel on that pedestal?

Yes, we have had a swivel for the past year. It is a good and bad. We love the ability to rotate the seat around when we are parked/camped but the extra 1.25" height is very noticeable and causes my wife discomfort in her legs. A taller person would really feel like their head is against the ceiling and looking at the top of the windshield. I plan to either build a new shorter seat base or cut the original base down.

Next project: removable "jumper" cabinet with stove top; are you ready!?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Are you able to run the seat heater wiring up through the middle of the swivel with the sub there?

I've been contemplating how to build a modular set of removable cabinets for a while now.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
Are you able to run the seat heater wiring up through the middle of the swivel with the sub there?

I've been contemplating how to build a modular set of removable cabinets for a while now.

No, it did not fit through and was not long enough. I cut the seat heater wire a few inches past where it comes out from under the carpet and extended it about a foot or so.

I'll be doing a cabinet soon and will post in a new thread. Here's the cabinet my buddy just made, it fastens to the hooks in the floor for the jump seat:
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

markcm2 wrote:
markcm2 wrote:
My buddy recently bought a 2002 with a small sub under the passenger seat, it sounds great. I have a blaupunkt powered sub waiting to be installed under the front passenger seat as well, once I decide where/how to route the power and signal wires.


While installing my webasto heater I had the front seats out so, it was time to install the powered subwoofer in the passenger seat base. Here's an outline of my steps:

1) I routed the power with the other wires under the carpet from the Driver's seat base where my AUX battery resides, over to the passenger seat base. This was the easiest part.

2) Next I routed a single RCA cable from the headunit down to the floor, I had the console out already. I lifted the carpet up from the rear the best I could although it is glued down and this was a real pain in the ass. Then I fished a straightened out coat hanger from the console back, taped the RCA cable to the coat hanger and pulled it through.

3) The blaupunkt sub is auto power switching so no remote power was needed, just the main power and the audio signal ; I tapped a ground off a seat base bolt.

4) I suspended the amp with a few straps, 1/16" x 3/4" steel from Lowes.

5) Made a few adjustments to prevent rattles and then put the seat back on.

The sound is noticeably fuller, there is definitely more bump in the passenger seat but the whole thing is pretty tame still. All in all, this was an awesome $35 ebay investment. Here are a few pictures to save on the million words:


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Links to my other eurovan stereo projects:

Sony XAV-AX100 6.4" touch screen install EV Weekender (2 DIN)
Front speaker upgrade in 01-03 Eurovan -Kenwood 6.5" KFC-P710PS
Rear speaker replacement in 93-03 Eurovan - 4" Fosgate R14x2



Hi Mark - really appreciate all your posts on your stereo install. Working to slowly get my van updated after purchasing a couple of months ago. Got a Sony XA100 installed last night and now just have the subwoofer and backup camera to finish. My sub is an aluminum body Blaupunkt GTHS81 which has some heft to it. I'm a bit nervous about the "feet" that mounted to the sub with tiny screws holding up in that configuration.
Was there a reason you suspended the sub instead of mounting it to a piece of plywood or similar on the floor? Was thinking I could secure the plywood using the same bolts that hold the seat to the floor, similar to the battery tray under the driver's seat.

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Subwoofer Location in Eurovan Reply with quote

While the center console and passenger seat were out for other projects, I added an under-seat subwoofer. Depending on your head unit and amplifier configuration, this may be a relatively easy install.

I found a complete "10 inch" subwoofer unit with built-in amplifier on Ebay. Reviews on similar units were mostly positive. Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/166104744815? Shop around, make an offer, and you can likely acquire for under $80.

As Markcm2 shared below, just fish the +12V, ampilifer-on signal, and RCA left-right wires underneath the carpet between the seat and console. Find a +12V source (I tied into the aux fuse panel I installed) and snake the amplifer-on and RCA cable up to the radio area. My Alpine CDE172BT has an amplifier-on signal and subwoofer outputs on the rear. Make connections at the subwoofer under the seat and add a ground between the subwoofer and one of the seat pedestal bolts and Bob's your uncle.

For my purposes, the aftermarket underseat subwoofer added just the additional amount of semi-thumpy bass I wanted. The Alpine unit has separate audio settings for the subwoofer intensity which generally negates the need for a separate remote control knob (although the unit comes with one). You're not going to rattle the windows in the car next to you at a stop light, and I'm not an audio expert, but it sounds much better to me and more like the high-end audio in a modern luxury vehicle.
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