Best Year Early Squareback opinions wanted

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[KTPhil]

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[jgerock]

You haven't scared me away yet. Still waiting on UPS to deliver my Bentley workshop manual from Amazon. Right now, I'm trying to decide on a 69 or a 64-67. I'd like to stay with 12V electrics but could convert (if necessary) a 6V car to 12V. I converted my 66 Beetle to 12V back in 1983.

I like the 55amp alternator offered by CB Performance.

Has anyone (who is looking at this thread) tried the 123 Distributor yet?
http://www.123ignition.nl/brand/VW.html

I installed one (USB connection) in my 69 BMW and it works fantastic. You can customize both the mechanical and vacuum advance curves using their tuning software. They offer both a USB version and Bluetooth version. There is a small port on the side of the housing for the vacuum advance so there isn't an external diaphragm to get in the way. My car doesn't use vacuum advance so I left the curve flat.

[Bobnotch]

[ataraxia]

[Donnie strickland]

[raygreenwood]

Interesting distributor. Wondering that if its programable.....it probably works on the same principle(s) as the CB performance black box?

Assuming this as the black box itself has a vacuum port on it...strain gauge based obviously. The strain gauge type vacuum measurement (the same method used in modern map sensors).....takes up little room and could easily fit inside a distributor body....underneath the top plate....since you would no longer need any of the centrifugal advance weight assembly below the plate.

I have been looking at the CB system with interest......trying to assess reliability and mijor start up issues with initial advance/retard programing since just like real vacuum advance...until the engine has actually caught and is running.....there is not yet any retard if you are using a dual unit.

If that dizzy were actuallg hollow under the plate......chances are high I could install the D-jet trigger set
As it is right now.....I am working on a D-Jet dizzy rebuild...and dropping in a hall unit from an 83 golf (I recently scored three complete Italian made GTI rabbit hall unit kits in the box for $17 each).
Hall triggering....with something like that dizzy or with a CB black box.....would be killer with D-jet. Ray

[jgerock]

[Donnie strickland]

Uh...it's not in the way of either, unless something is out of whack.

Just curious. It looks like an interesting unit, though.
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71 Elm Green FI A/T Squareback

[Bobnotch]

[Pelle]

[jgerock]

Did VW change the rear hatch (license plate housing) from 68 to 69? Some pictures here in the technical section look like the 69 had a bolt-on housing and the 68 had the light integrated into the hatch.

I like the handling of the IRS chassis but also like the looks of the earlier cars with 12V electrics, so maybe I'm down to either a 67-69. My history with my 66 swingaxle Beetle wasn't so great. It came to me very cheap ($ 50) and after changing out the driver's side wheel bearing and seals multiple times, I found out the axle was bent. The guy I sold the car to swapped out a 67 (long axle) transaxle and never had another issue.
Picture from September 1982

Are the 67 Squarebacks famous for all the same 1-year only parts like the Beetle? Do they share the same turn signal/emergency flasher relay? I have read thru the list of changes but need to absorb it a little more - especially with the additional responses to that thread.

Once I decide on a year, I realize I'd have to do a wide search since most older cars around here have turned to rust. My 69 BMW was originally a Marin County CA car that ended up in AZ when I bought it 4 years ago.

[KTPhil]

Don't let something as trivial as a relay change the year you want. You can make any year work just fine. Pick the chassis and body style you love, and set out looking. It's out there.

The nearest Type 3 to a '67 Bug is the '69: IRS, 12V, old body style. Many 1-year only parts, but all findable.

[jgerock]

[Donnie strickland]

Phil is absolutely right, don't get hung up on a single issue. There are fixes for any issue you might run across, just keep asking questions. There are many years of Type 3's that have one-year-only stuff (like my 1971) but the classifieds here will usually keep you covered, along with ISP West.
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71 Elm Green FI A/T Squareback

[Peters Van]

looking for something out of the ordinary !!!!!!!

go for a panel van
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1965 Type 3 Panel Van
1963 EH Holden Station Wagon

[jgerock]

[jgerock]

Can anyone tell me what year and color this Squareback is?

How about this "late model"?

This heavily modified Notchback showed up at one of our local BMW CCA club events. Purists look away.