COOLED brand Engine fanshrouds and engine tin.

[Bryan67]

I just got my shroud but it will be awhile before it gets used. I have heard from two different sources. (One well known) that they cause an engine to run hotter then stock. Or even an aftermarket 36hp style shroud. Not what I wanted to hear but I will find out for myself. The shroud itself looks very well made. Except for two things... It came with a very nice semi gloss black finish but had small scratches that were touched up with gloss black spray paint. And there are several spot welds on the face from welding the vanes in. Not unlike an original but they definitely take away from the look.
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[Dogo]

I'm sorry if it's been touched on, but do these need the hoover bit as well?
Thx

[Greenrod]

Dogo,

I just bought one of these. I too wondered about the need of a "Hoover bit" (the tiny bracket that goes around the bottom of the oil cooler between the shroud and the cooler, for those not familiar), so I emailed Concept-1. Ken from Concept-1 replied, stating that the shroud is based on a later style fuel injection fan shroud, which does not require the “hoover bit.” That works for me! One less part to purchase. I have/called them before with questions. They have always been polite and informative. Note: if you want to use a Type I cooler (which would be @#$% goofy ), then you would have to rig up something to accommodate the gap.

The quality of this shroud is superb. I am building a 2276, so I want to ensure that my project motor stays nicely cooled (it's tapped for full flow & I am planning to run an external oil cooler too, if need be). I just hope my vintage short IDF manifolds will work! I have not utilized it yet, but when I do, I will post my experience with it. When I received it from the supplier (not Concept-1), it had a few tiny scratches (you know, the ones that no one else sees, but you do). Ken stated that "the coating on them is meant as a primer for proper paint. It can be used on its own, but should really be top-coated." Basically, it's a really nice primer. I was planning on spraying it with Rust-Oleum hammered finish paint, so I am quite satisfied (so far). I hope this info helps!

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[mark tucker]

be nice if they made a 40 ~42mm wide fan too and one that works in reverse....no not while your reversing but can spin the other way....so..you could put 2 fans back to back and with a aluminim alt face plate fined nicely pull from both directions and pump mo air for the guys that need mo air pumped...kinda like some of the porchea stuff....

[Dogo]

What has everyone that is using one of these done with the top cooler adapter studs now being too short for the T4 cooler?

[jason]

When I did my type 4 cooler conversion I just used all thread and cut to desired length

[FreeBug]

[APPLEGREENVW]

Check out the new sale price.
http://usstore.concept1.ca/Fan-Shroud-W-OHeat-W-Holes-COOLED.1.2-62217/

Also available here,
https://aapistons.com/search?type=product&q=shroud

I placed my order today. Its cheaper than a used 73 Thing shroud.
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[Emeraldlion]

Ouch. I understand there is cost in tooling but 200 bucks? That is steep. Especially since there doesn't seem to be much evidence that any of the aftermarket cool any better than the og with a venturi ring added.

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[Glenn]

[W1K1]

Quit you whining about the cost, you yanks have a $1.28US to our canadian dollar. our cost is $300 canadian.
I've been sitting on a list of parts waiting for the dollar to get better to order stuff from the USA for a while now. It's hard to throw away an extra 30% for stuff that was at par a couple years ago, sooner or later I'm gonna have to pull the trigger
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[Emeraldlion]

I didn't see anyone asking for a 20 dollar shroud. I think 200 is steep when you can find a stock shroud in decent shape and add a venturi ring for less. If this was a product that offered better cooling or additional value I would see it. If it is worth it to you fork out. Don't act like a condescending you know what because someone else doesn't see the value there.

[Splitdog]

$200 is a fair price indeed.
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[Emeraldlion]

Not without heat outputs and T-4 cooler duct...unless you want to search for a Thing shroud and modify it.

I will admit I was passing over these 2 points in my consideration of the overall value, that was short sighted on my part. In my readings here though I have gathered that the type iv oil cooler mod does not deliver much more than the stock doghouse cooler, and personally I am running outlets or will plug them. Okay, the plugged outlets may have some disruption in air flow but I have not seen much that says that any other shroud improves cooling definitively.

I have read through this whole thread overall conclusion is this is a decent product compared to a lot that is available. I have not said this is a poor product nor have I bashed the guy for the price he is asking saying he is out of line. I said that is steep. I personally would go another route before this. With that said, if it truly is worth it for a large number of people that is great.

Wow. I love the samba, it is a great resource and a truly helpful community. I have received a tremendous amount of helpful feedback from a lot of very respectable people. We need to try to not be so quick to jump on someone because they aren't on your page.

Happy thanksgiving all

[neil68]

[Glenn]