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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Barry the guy doing the body work is very good. You can see where he has straightened a bit of the floor pan which had 'stretched' by heat shrinking. There are three heat points visible on the underside of the left hand rear floorpan in the second pic.
The small patch up on its own on the front section was where something hard belted into the floorpan. I think the previous owners sons took it for a bush-bash at one point in its life..... |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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That's lost in translation to me. I'm not sure I want to know! |
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Some shots with the top section removed and outer removed of the passenger (LHS) sill. Rusting from inside out, typical Ghia!
It looked ok from the outside, but I expected to be replacing the sills......
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:40 am Post subject: |
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Well things have been happening although I haven't posted in a while.
On removing the outer sill plate there was actually not much other than surface rust on the remaining rocker panels. Even got a borescope and had a look between the inner and middle plates, all looked sound. So will just need to be blasting and priming the exposed mid panel.
Ordered the outer sill rust panels plus some other odds and sods.
Barry is using the Dansk panels, which generally seem to be pretty good. They still need some reshaping to match the original but we are lucky they are available.
The outer sills come with the threshold top cover as well, whereas the original is in two pieces. It's a big draw to manufacture, and there are ripples on that top section. We're going to cut that off and make our own top plates, which will be more factory correct and won't be left with the ripples, even though they are mostly covered by the threshold trim.
I don't know what you call this bit, but it was rusty and baz made up up a new one. This was the worst side, but both need it.
This was the only bit of rust on the middle rocker panel. It's right on the corner of the floor pan, and has actually rusted from outside in. The matching bit of floor pan also needed some love. The upper bit in the photo is the horizontal part of body that seats against the body/floor pan seal. The lower bit is the vertical part of body that sits just outside the floor pan. There must have been some dirt or something lodged up there that caused it to rust.
Now the panels are here they'll get welded in and that will be most of the rust work done. The front end just needs to be straightened now.......
Diagonals on the floor pan showed it to be all square at least.
Not having much luck finding 'correct' upholstery material, it's actually easier getting lowlight materials than 60's material. May just have to go with some earlier material, perhaps the thin corduroy. Probably better suited in a non a/c car in a sub tropical climate anyway. |
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Karly Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2002 Posts: 641 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Not having much luck finding 'correct' upholstery material, it's actually easier getting lowlight materials than 60's material. May just have to go with some earlier material, perhaps the thin corduroy. Probably better suited in a non a/c car in a sub tropical climate anyway. |
What material are you after? I have a roulette green '64 - I imagine the interior is fairly similar to '63? It had the tan cloth leatherette combo and Keven from Trimtec (WA) had the hounds tooth cloth in stock. He was nice enough to organize to send me some samples so I could match the stuff I had in the car. _________________ 1960 Beetle ''Heidi" daily driver
1964 Karmann Ghia project |
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Karly wrote: |
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Not having much luck finding 'correct' upholstery material, it's actually easier getting lowlight materials than 60's material. May just have to go with some earlier material, perhaps the thin corduroy. Probably better suited in a non a/c car in a sub tropical climate anyway. |
What material are you after? I have a roulette green '64 - I imagine the interior is fairly similar to '63? It had the tan cloth leatherette combo and Keven from Trimtec (WA) had the hounds tooth cloth in stock. He was nice enough to organize to send me some samples so I could match the stuff I had in the car. |
Hi Karly. I've been speaking with Kevin, he has a fair range of the houndstooth material but not for the colour I'm using ((emerald green/white). There are some dyes but he is reluctant to do that and he's found they can wear off in time. I think I'll just pick one of the other materials, won't be factory but at least similar.
I think the door panels may have changed a bit from 63 to 64, the interior door handle changed at that time- mine has the lever type like in a beetle. Otherwise I think they'd be much the same.
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Been digging through the boxes of bits.
Came across all the hinges. I had the four original black ones, some used blue rhs hinges I used as the originals were flogged out. Then the four unpainted NOS hinges I bought years ago and never actually looked at.
The stamping is a little different on some of the hinges, as can be seen in the photos. One of the NOS hinges does not have the diamond shape in it. One of the old hinges is OK to use and has the diamond shape. Anyone know what the difference is? Can anyone explain to me how it is that I have arrived at a point where I actually care !
Here the door is fitted up to check gaps before the outer rocker skin is welded in. |
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KGCoupe Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2005 Posts: 3580 Location: Putting the "ill" and "annoy" in Illinois
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Angus Dowrie wrote: |
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The stamping is a little different on some of the hinges, as can be seen in the photos. One of the NOS hinges does not have the diamond shape in it. One of the old hinges is OK to use and has the diamond shape. Anyone know what the difference is? Can anyone explain to me how it is that I have arrived at a point where I actually care !
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It's amazing how these cars have a way of making perfectly normal people care about stuff like that. |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:26 am Post subject: |
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I've got enough hinges with my stash, just wasn't sure if there is anything significant about the different stamping.
I'm also looking at the washer. Mine is the push button inset in the wiper switch knob, with the wash bottle pressurised by the spare tyre. I'm looking at putting a small 12v electric pump, and use the flash switch on the back of the indicator arm to activate it. Has anyone done that? Don't want to put another switch in if I can avoid it. |
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paul_round Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2014 Posts: 502 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:02 am Post subject: |
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I've just done my wipers.
I grafted a mini push button switch onto the back of the wiper switch, so that the inset button now activates the mini switch, connected to an electric washer pump.
Here is a link to the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aERkCfaTQKg
I have the later switch and it works really well, the only mod i think I will add is a non-return valve, as it takes a few seconds for the water to come through. |
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for that, a very neat idea! |
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Shaggir Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2010 Posts: 63 Location: Sunny Florida, Sunny Scotland
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Great idea! _________________ Project X - 63' Bug
Project Y - 63' Vert
Project Z - 63' Bug |
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RichElliott Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2015 Posts: 14 Location: Beaverton, OR
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Wow! Looking great! Keep up the good work! _________________ Previously Owned VW's:
1972 Yellow Super Beetle
1971 Baby Blue Beetle
1969 Yellow Ghia (aka Mr. Rusty)
1972 Yellow Ghia
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the encouragement Rich!
Here are the sill, lower quarter going in.
Picked up a new RHD wiring harness made by a company in Victoria. Based on a '62 model so should be pretty much the same as the '63. |
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jdoug Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 76 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Great thread for me as I'm just a few steps behind.
What are you going to do with the door hinges? I already had the lower left one replaced before I started my resto. I might replace them all at this point for piece of mind.
Did you pick your colors yet? L514 with L289 top and wheel disc? That's what mine is and will be. Don't think we stand much of a chance of crossing paths so you first. |
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Angus Dowrie Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2005 Posts: 341 Location: Kangaroo Point, Australia
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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What are you going to do with the door hinges? I already had the lower left one replaced before I started my resto. I might replace them all at this point for piece of mind. |
I'm going to use all the new hinges except the lower left, where I'll use the old one. It is still very tight, and has the same stamping as the others. I'm RHD, so the left door is my passenger door. Still have the NOS one to use as a spare if I need to get the other one re-pinned in the future.
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Did you pick your colors yet? L514 with L289 top and wheel disc? That's what mine is and will be. |
That is what my original intention was, my other choice was the sea-blue L360, also with the blue-white roof L289. These two were my favourites of the standard '63 colour range. (It was originally Pearl White)
I have just recently decided to go with the sea blue for two reasons. It turns out my wife actually prefers that, happy wife/happy life!
The other reason is that in conversations with 'the aussie trimmer' Kevin Ferguson, I can get a better match of materials for the interior with the sea-blue.
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Don't think we stand much of a chance of crossing paths so you first. |
The odds are against it, but perhaps the final reason to go with the blue? |
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jdoug Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2014 Posts: 76 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I like the blue. Maybe better than the green. But, I'm sticking to original exterior color scheme. So, paint scheduled yet? Can't wait to see pics.
Here's a pic of my body where I dropped it off to be acid dipped. This is the week it's going to get dipped. From there I need to trailer to body shop and wouldn't you know its supposed to rain all week.
Did all 63's come with a dash pad? The PO had a later model one installed in mine. Need to figure out what my options are there. |
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