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foamcar Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2010 Posts: 136 Location: michigan
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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Jan
That bracket should be flat. A friend reinforced his after repairing to help prevent future deformation. I copied that on mine.
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Some more progress, rear floor pan edge prepared and lower tunnel edge cleaned.
Some rust came through to inner metal. Opened, cleaned and welded back.
Testfittet floor and temporarily placed seat rails and pedal board structure.
Looks so beautiful and is good motivation
This comes next: rear seat area, gearbox cover and parcel tray. Completely cratered surface, underside looks mostly nice.
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of pics for lots of work - the rear seat panels. This area is not for beginners, because there are lots of curvatures and no straight edge.
The surface if cratered and lots of tiny holes - probably water stood on.
This should go in there.
Opened the lower mainframe to slip metal over and rustprevented inside.
The rust on the inside seems to be unproblematic with some rust converter and some "Hohlraumschutzwachs" at the end.
Epoxy primed upside, because later on it's impossible to get there.
Test fitting and fixing ...
... and welded, front side with spot welding gun.
Other side ...
... same procedure ...
... until both are in and grinded.
Welded from underside and grind down the weld spots.
Fit repair panel for opened main frame edge and ...
close the gap.
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Parceltray area and mainframe lower structure repaired.
Inner main frame structure doesn't look so bad.
Parcel tray bracket have to be replaced.
Visible areas are grinded. Below the parcel tray not grinded down completely to make it stiffer.
Welding areas temporarily protected with rust primer. Some areas have to be hammered and dollied a little bit, but the complete rear horizontal structure is repaired and free of rust and holes - one big step
This area comes next - inner rear fender panels on both sides.
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roy mawbey Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2012 Posts: 397 Location: Sussex England
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Jan,
Nice work, well done!!
Roy _________________ Roy
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doublecabmel Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2010 Posts: 131
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:41 pm Post subject: another one saved! |
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Hi Jan,
Excellent work. Any chance you would like to move to Southern California and help me with my speedster? Also don't forget to check out:
www.356registry.com
And the toy and lit show is coming up in March |
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hi doublecabmel
Southern California sounds like sun and perfect weather, I have to think about it
your nickname looks like you have a double cab? Like my last finished full rotisserie restoration project (67 T1 CrewCab). Nice driver and perfect to drive with during 356 restoration.
We did an Alpen-trip through the European mountains and drove all interesting top passes.
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Next step is done - inner rear fender on driver side:
Picture before - was thinking where to cut partially. At the end I replaced the whole panel from top edge to bottom edge and it was good to do - as you can see the rust between the panels.
This should go in (wrong side, but same type of panel)
Started cutting a big hole inside. Lower edge rotton and have to be removed now.
Looked "okay" from outside. Finally opened beaded top area and lots of rust came out.
Problematic area ...
... trimmed ...
... welded ...
... Finished!
Cleaned lower edge and b-pillar (will be probably replaced later on). Clamped outer longitudinal to see where it will end.
Test fitting and finally welding. Put in some additional reinforcement bars to keep correct proportion.
Panel in correct size and prepared for welding
upside down to fill the welded gap with rust primer (and thinner to make it more liquid for the small gap)
The result is a totally filled gap with primer.
Opened top of main frame because of surface rust holes and to mediablast and finally sealing inside
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doublecabmel Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2010 Posts: 131
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roy mawbey Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2012 Posts: 397 Location: Sussex England
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Jan,
Nice work on the inner rear fender. Your thread is really great to follow you make it look so easy
Also both of those VW's look super. Don't seem to have seen many of this type in the UK? although of course the normal buses are so popular here with many restored to perfection.
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foamcar Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2010 Posts: 136 Location: michigan
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi foamcar, thanks for the information about the hood. I just bought an A-hood 2 weeks ago from the classified section here at thesamba.com. The seller Paul did a great job and built a box to ship the hood to germany. I'm curious about the arrival and how the hood fits to the body.
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Got my bolts and nuts back from galvanic. These bolts are brand new produced and zinc coated - not original, but better rust prevention. These nuts and bolts are M8 SW14 8.8 as original on 356 and not like "modern" M8 SW13.
Jan
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roy mawbey Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2012 Posts: 397 Location: Sussex England
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Jan,
Those bolts look very nice and the ATF sizing will finish the job very well. I notice you also have the various sizes in the box. Good decision to purchase those.
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Jacks Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2006 Posts: 2348 Location: San Clemente, Ca.
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Where does someone find new 14mm ATF hardware? _________________ Jack Staggs
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Hi Roy and Jack - and all others
These nuts and bolts SW14/14 ATF are necessary for a nice restoration - in my opinion. Better than a mixture of old rusty bolts and worn out nuts in SW13 and SW14.
A company here in Germany just produced a limited number of nuts and bolts. So they are brand new, "Made in Germany" and labeled "GRAEKA 8 G", a german company since 1872. The bolts are "black" and I brought them to my galvanic company to zinc coat them.
Now I have 200 nuts and 140 bolts (different lenght from 15 to 30mm). So enough for most applications. You should keep some longer bolts and restore them. They are not cheap, but better than SW13/ATF13 nuts and bolts.
If someone is interested, I can sell and ship them worldwide.
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Suboval Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2003 Posts: 794
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Hi, this is a different distributor, but I think the nuts and bolts are the same, because same pictures, same boxes, same sizes and description and same prices (as I told not really cheap). But none of these distributors is selling zinc platet bolts, this has to be done by yourself - like I did with mine.
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cooperati Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jan
Very nice restoration.
The red oxide primer looks good. What brand - Wurth? |
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jan_t4 Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2012 Posts: 146 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Same procedure on codriver side.
This big hole has to be filled
Old looks better that it really was - tiny pinholes all over. New piece - has to be trimmed.
Testfitting
Panel ready for welding.
Repaired edge like on other side and finally ...
welded ...
... and primed the gap, upside down.
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