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janerick3 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: |
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derluftwagen wrote: |
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Sounds more and more like a '60 body on a '61 pan if there is no guide tube on the pan for the choke cable. The VIN tag could have been moved from the '61 body when it was swapped to the '61 pan. |
Thats why I asked if the body vin had rivets or screws. I think original rivets would set the record straight. |
The small VIN tags were held on by aluminum pop rivets at least from late calendar year 1960, so they'd be easy to swap. If the body is from early-mid 1960 model year, the rivet holes from the large tag should still be visible. _________________ Thanks,
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likestoparty Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 58 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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This is an interesting topic. I'm in the process (almost done!) of readying my '60 for a trip from Washington, DC to Seattle, WA. My petcock was ready for the retirement home so we put a fuel guage-equipped fuel tap on my humpy '60 tank for the ferry flight across the US. So, inconvenient just became a series of cross-country surprises! Anyhoo, here's my question: will a '62 fuel tank with a sender fit in the '60 hole? I have the square gauge hole cutout already there in the dash. Since this is quite topical, is this correct?
So, check this out. We had a few days of head scratching why the rear wheel cylinders kept coming back the wrong part and Alex @ Metric Autohaus figured out I have entirely '57 brake components on the back. Weird, huh? I figure it must have happened in the 60s sometime because it doesn't make any sense since ovals became desirable as opposed to obsolete, you dig? When I acquired my '60 off the side of the road in Accokeek, MD 13 years ago I was firmly in love with my 1963 and thought '63 was the great year of the Beetle, but revisiting this '60 and its little quirks makes me think of it more like the '60/'61 Beetles being the ultimate culmination of the early-period Beetles. And there's something charming about that. Orange safety signals and seat belts are for wusses with no appreciation of art.
Storage!
Sleepy eyed and sloppy!
Clean!
I saw my stack of brand new Continentals in Metric Autohaus' foyer today, I personally have waited 13 years to get rid of those tacky whitewalls. Wiping the two-tone off will be next, after body rot, door hinges, fuel sitch, installing '70s 3-point VW seatbelts in the (gasp) new pans, etc, etc, etc, of course. Mere days till we set off, wish us luck!
Your pal,
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8504 Location: PNW
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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No the 61 up tank will not fit the 60 hump tank hole without MAJOR hacking. Its better to just order a new reserve tap or the rebuild kit from Wolfsburg West.
If you really want a gauge find an electric from a 55-60 ghia. Flat chrome rim on the gauge, sender is the correct size for the hump tank and if you are lucky you can get the tank too so you dont have to hack your OG tank.
You can also use a modern VDO gauge with a 62-67 bus sender. The sender is not the correct height and will not reach the bottom of the tank but at least you will know when you have 1/4 of a tank left, plus you still have the reserve tap if you forget. |
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likestoparty Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2011 Posts: 58 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Thank you very much! |
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8504 Location: PNW
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kevinh94 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2007 Posts: 268 Location: Nolanville, TX 76559
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Hey all Im not new to the vw world but I was just searchin the forums when I came across this sticky. I really would like to know how to read my vin. I dont understand how you know all this info from the vin. I have tried matchin up my vin but I just can figure it out and I woul really like to know what my did and did not come with fromt he factory.
I have a 1960 Beetle, with a 40hp engine. I don't beleive it to be stock but I did read some 60's came with them. Although it is electric choke and I have a manual pull choke cable left of my ashtray.
I also know it was a Las Vegas Car as well cuz I found an old piece of paper in it documenting it as such and its sun beat to hell.
Any help would be much appreciated. _________________ Low and Slow is the only way to go!!! |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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A stock choke cable would be to the right of the ash tray the ignition switch is to the left. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
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kevinh94 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2007 Posts: 268 Location: Nolanville, TX 76559
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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tasb wrote: |
A stock choke cable would be to the right of the ash tray the ignition switch is to the left. |
Yeah i know My mistake but correcting me dont answer my question. Of all I posted all you got out if it was that i said my choke was on the left???
Come on I came here for help to be corrected. If you dont have the answer please dont post or go correct someone else. _________________ Low and Slow is the only way to go!!! |
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8504 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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kevinh94 wrote: |
Hey all Im not new to the vw world but I was just searchin the forums when I came across this sticky. I really would like to know how to read my vin. I dont understand how you know all this info from the vin. I have tried matchin up my vin but I just can figure it out and I woul really like to know what my did and did not come with fromt he factory.
I have a 1960 Beetle, with a 40hp engine. I don't beleive it to be stock but I did read some 60's came with them. Although it is electric choke and I have a manual pull choke cable left of my ashtray.
I also know it was a Las Vegas Car as well cuz I found an old piece of paper in it documenting it as such and its sun beat to hell.
Any help would be much appreciated. |
You can only find out specific info on your car by ordering a Birth Certificate from the VW museum.
No 1960 BEETLES came with 40 hp engines from the factory. Starting in Aug 60 (1961 model year) the 40 hp were installed. The fact you have a manual choke verifies it originally came with a 36 hp engine.
Click on the technical tab on the upper right for all the info you need on your car.
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Zekes'Low60 Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: Jackson Creek,NC
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kevinh94 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2007 Posts: 268 Location: Nolanville, TX 76559
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ok thanks for the help. Yeah I figured as much on the cable or I was thinking someone may have just swapped carbs but still I was unsure.
VIN Is 2606755.
Other then a cig lighter I don't see that my car had a lot of factory accessories. I looked at the vin identifier on the site but I couldn't figure it out.
Ill look into gettin a BC _________________ Low and Slow is the only way to go!!! |
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Zekes'Low60 Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2004 Posts: 259 Location: Jackson Creek,NC
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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2 631 447 was the last car made in Sept, so your car was made sometime in Sept.....maybe the last week.
The BC would tell you the exact day it rolled off the line and any options it had from the factory...exterior/interior color,whitewalls, etc.... but no dealer installed items. _________________ 10 December 1959.... L41 VW De Luxe Sedan..."Christine"
62 'Vert basketcase....."Tetnus"
62 Dragcar/ProStreet project....."Muffdiver" |
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kevinh94 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2007 Posts: 268 Location: Nolanville, TX 76559
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet man thanks. I will buy one shortly _________________ Low and Slow is the only way to go!!! |
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kevinh94 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2007 Posts: 268 Location: Nolanville, TX 76559
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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OK I got it. The chart shows the last beetle-vin given in that month, so my vin started as 2 606 which of course was before 631. It is a true 60 and my title is correct. I have yet to title and register the car but its nice to know I wont have any problems when I do.
I was actually goin to find a 36 for my car so its true to the factory specs. But I ran out of money to do so. I will once I come back from deployment. I have a friend that has one for 200 that runs will no problems.
Here are some pics
http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff180/kevinh94/60%20Beetle/
Later down the road I plan to give it some paint. I'm goin to try and find some paint close to whats already on the car. I have plans of dropping it as low as I can and still drive it safely. Get more power and new trans (Freeway Flyer).
I will update pics shortly _________________ Low and Slow is the only way to go!!! |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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kevinh94 wrote: |
tasb wrote: |
A stock choke cable would be to the right of the ash tray the ignition switch is to the left. |
Yeah i know My mistake but correcting me dont answer my question. Of all I posted all you got out if it was that i said my choke was on the left???
Come on I came here for help to be corrected. If you dont have the answer please dont post or go correct someone else. |
There are tons of posts on here about reading the vin tables and even a sticky on the topic. You do say "ANY" help would be appreciated. I've seen lots of VW's with the switches mixed up or non existent.
Sorry if I stomped on yah it was not intentional.
Nice looking project; should keep you busy for awhile. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse |
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swagen60beetle Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2005 Posts: 29 Location: carrollton/tx
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Here are some pics of m 60 when i got it it had a few things wrong like the engine and tranny were missing and replaced with later units. I have put a 57 column with a REAL banjo from a hebmuller in it. I have been collecting all the parts since i got it to restore it. Here is a little story about my car that i have found out over time and from tracking people down. When it was ordered it was ordered flint gray, with Steel gray leatherette. Black vinyl rag top. When the car got to the dealer the guy that ordered it decided he wanted an okrasa installed so he ended up with the stock engine as a spare. At some point when he sold the car the okrasa, the original engine and the crash box were removed. After i got the car from the 3rd owner i didn't know anything about this car. Then i decided to find out all the info on the car starting with owners. I knew who the 3rd was but the rest were a mystery. The 3rd owner told me where he got the car and the guys first name but no luck looking. Then jump forward about a yr later. Im at a swap meet and there is the guy with 4 36hp engine and one was an okrasa and a crash box tranny. I asked him what he wanted for all of it and told him what i had. He told me that the okrasa and crash box had come from a 60 rag top. Then when he gave me his name it clicked. I asked him where he was from and what the car looked like. Turned out i had his car. He said he didn't want to go home with any of it and just really wanted gas money. He really didn't know what he had he had heard from a friend about the swap meet. I again asked how much and he said man since you got my old car $20 and you can have it all. That is the fastest i have ever handed $20 bucks over. Here are some pics from 2007 of my baby.
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kevinh94 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2007 Posts: 268 Location: Nolanville, TX 76559
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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These are my most recent pics of my 60. It isn't much but Ive been visiting family before deployment. I can wait to bag my suspension and get some paint on it and a bigger engine. _________________ Low and Slow is the only way to go!!! |
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AlteWagen Troll
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mango 60s are SEXY!! |
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Stock Steve Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 1963 Location: My Left Nutmeg State
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CLASSIC CAR GUY Transport and Title Guru
Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 1608 Location: Phoenix AZ, but originally from Long Island NY
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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heres link to my pretty well documented 60'
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=461903
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