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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a NOS one if you need one.

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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got her all welded up already, but thanks for the offer Rich! Cool

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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, got the new pan halves installed in the car. The body has been temprarily reinstalled to make it easy to bring the car home from Franklins....enjoy...
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nice original horse hair mat in the luggage area.... going bye-bye b/c the scheit stinks...
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More to come....
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, in order to have the proper tools for this build, as in AIR TOOLS, I need to start improving the "Shop". Keep in mind, I am not a professional mechanic, only a back yard wanna bee and DIYer. I'm pretty handy, tho....& can at least hold my own. I knew I would need at least a 60 gallon 5 hp compressor that put out over 10 cfm minimum at 90 psi. So I shopped around, including on Craigslist. What a joke. Guys are thinking their old junk is worth what a new one costs, minus the tax. WTF!?!?! And then you don't know squat about it's condition. I decided to shop around for a new one. I found a 10% off coupon to Lowe's at the Post Office (in their Mover's Packet --HOT TIP), signed up for Lowe's credit card and got another 10% on top of that for a whopping 20% discount. Got the Campbell Hausfield (CH) 220 volt jobbie. I found out this CH unit is exactly the same as the Home Depot Husky unit (in red). Literally, the motor they use is identical, only with the CH label. Bought all the associated piping, a few tools, etc. I decided that I didn't want it inside the garage and convinced the wifey that it be way better, and look good, on the outside. Plus it would be quieter:
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There we go, color matched siding, roof, complete with 220 volt wiring, swithch and breaker installed. Got the boss's approval on this one....
Yeah, I know that insulation in there looks ghetto but it helps to keep the noise down. It really is very quiet. Thanks for looking....
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slowly making progress, but these photos mark a pretty monumental day...when the car comes home for the first time. This is after having the pans installed. In retrospect, I could have done it myself, but it would have taken lots more time and effort. Now i know. I guess that's what building these cars is about...live and learn.....and have fun in the process.....
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More vey soon
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we need more pics of the shop just so we know we can approve the project.... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool Not a prob, pics on the way soon! Actually, getting the shop ready for this car was a real project in itself. I had all kinds of scheit in there that had to get moved out to make room for the Ragtop. Rolling Eyes Oh yeah, but don't have any hi expectations, b/c the "shop" is just my garage! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at least you dont have a carport in the middle of the city. apparently the city doesnt like people having rusty projects....they just havent looked next door yet. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigblue wrote:
at least you dont have a carport in the middle of the city. apparently the city doesnt like people having rusty projects....they just havent looked next door yet. Embarassed


That's true, I'm lucky to at least have a garage....
So I built a 12X12 shed in my backyard out of about 80% recycled lumber. I had to buy new roofing and siding and trim, but all the guts are recycled wood, high quality wood granted, but wood that came from industrial packaging. Stay tuned.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As promised, shed build pics. As i said, mostly recycled lumber was used. I also had some leftover paint, and the nice big vinyl window I bought off Craigslist for $40. I personally designed and built this shed, (ok, stole design from a shed book I bought from Lowe's Razz ). But I DID pound every single nail and drove every screw. And yes the brown dog helped by dropping the ball on my foot as often as possible. Wink

**ON EDIT, MY PICTURES WERE DELETED FROM THE SAMBA BY THE MODERATOR -- Very Happy LOL, that is some funny stuff. But hey, that's presumably b/c they were not directly VW related. Embarassed Now I know. Thanks for not deleting my compressor pics. Laughing Sorry everyone. Oh well, the thread will continue on!
Cheers, thanks for lookin'.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oval rag is finally safe and sound at home. You can probably spot some goodies in this photo. To do:
1. Build a wheeled dolly to store the body with room for the pan to fit underneath.
2. Finish installing compressed air system
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

those pesky moderators...at least its out of the rain Idea
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More photos of this Oval Rag's restoration place....notice the little goodies you'll see lying around, like Porsche Fuch wheels, an oval decklid, the start of my dolly, and one happy Oval. More details to come on everything, just trying to get everyone up to speed and, well, make an attempt to satisfy everyone's insatiable desire for pics. Smile I promise, photos debicting ACTUAL WORK are on their way. Laughing
Here's what I got for now:
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Anybody see a correct H-pattern rear apron clip in this one? Cool
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The side supports of my dolly with wheels are on the floor, along with a messy garage. Wheels, decklid, and a auto-retracting air hose reel are in there too:
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here you get a better view of the items mentioned above, plus two period-correct MINT rear pop-out windows I bought. Got 'em from MarkM, from whom I also bought the car....Thanks Mark...
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Hope you enjoy, thanks for lookin'
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, back with more progress....not a ton, but significant nonetheless. So the plan here is to take the body back OFF the pan so i can restore the pan and the body separately. Plus, I have space restrictions with only a two car garage. Wifey parks her car in garage #2. Rolling Eyes (I know, i am lucky to have two -- a lot of you guys have no garage or one small one. Hats off to you alll Smile ) Very Happy Anyway, the plan was to build a dolly that allowed the rolling chasis pan to fit under the body . The dolly had to be wheeled to allow it to be mobile, but short enough to still fit in the garage! Here are pics of the dolly next to the car:
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Here, I got help from a few friends to remove the body again. Notice there are two Sallies on the left....and just me on the right Cool
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Finished product, and yes thank goodness all my measurements were spot on, the dolly and body fit in the garage!
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Not very exciting, but I used a tow bar to take the rolling pan to the local pressure washer to wash off 50+ years of grime. This is the final result, a clean rolling chasis:
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thanks for lookin',
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now the real work begins. I have to admit, I started this project as a total amateur. I'm a pretty good handy man when it comes to working around the house, even remodeling a kitchen, bath, or installing floors, etc. But I have pretty limited autobody experience. Like many of you guys, I grew up around cars and learned to love them, VWs inluded obviously Laughing . BUT, my family's financial background was such that any cars I thought were cool growing up, **DID NOT** belong to us Sad . I was lucky and at least had a car in HS, and friends and I worked on them ourselves and we had a lot of fun. ANYWAY, enough of the life story. I wanted to take matters into my own hands. I did the college thing, got thru that and now I have a career and a day job. Now I want some schooling in the fun stuff. So I looked into taking autobody instruction from the local community college(s). There are many out there, but most did not have a decent autobody program, and if they did, they didn't offer night class which was mandatory. I got super lucky when I found a WA state community college about 1 mile from where I work that HAS NIGHT CLASS! Freakin' cool. So they are on the quarter system, and offer one night class each quarter (around $300), and none during the summer. Class is on Tuesdays from 6 to 10p, PERFECT. Get out of the house, hang out with a bunch of hobbyists like me, talk shop, BS, have fun, learn the ropes, AND GET WORK DONE on your own project! Stay tuned, you'll see what I mean. Cool Now, the financial situation is a little different, but like many of you out there I still can't afford to pay someone to do all my restoration work for me! It is freakin' expensive! Just the materials and parts to do a restoration are waaaay up there $$$. Anyway, if any of you guys are like me and want to learn how to do some or all of the work yourself, then I highly recommend hooking up with a local trade school, vocational institution or community college, if it's available to you. What you learn lasts a lifetime. Thanks for looking....(is anybody out there? Confused ) LOL

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work, man!! I can't wait to see this done. I have a feeling it is going to be SWEET. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks TJ, yeah at the very minimum it will be a fun journey!
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, work continues.....now it's time to get this pan broken down for restoration, this means all brakes, brake lines, the tranny, e-brake, EVERYTHING must go....
First let's get it properly jacked up...
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a shot of how smooth and perfect the body-to-pan mounting surfaces are, how much undercoating they used, etc. etc..
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close up of the split case tranny, all the brake lines, 6v starter, etc.... Non of the crap u see would pressure wash off for NOTHIN'....
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crimoney, these may be the original shocks Shocked
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Got a helper to do some of the grunt work.... Laughing My nephew!
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Making some progress on the backside. Tranny and axles are out....
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Now let's knock the front end off. Goal: take this beam off FOR THE FIRST TIME IN IT'S LIFE:
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I know gory details, bet most of you guys are bored stiff, but thanks for lookin' anyways!
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More pan disassembly work.
Here's a shot of the front of my pan, beam still in place. Already removed are tie rods, brake parts, pedal assembly, master cylinder, etc. Stock spindles and link pin spindles are seen dangling from the stock control arms, etc. All rust you see is surface only. I continue to find VERY MINIMAL rust on this car...
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Here is a pic of the front of the pan, looking at the front tunnel access cover:
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Beam removed! :
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Questions, comments from anybody out there are welcome. This is my first ever rebuild of any car, let alone a beloved VW. Let me know what you guys think!

Blake
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good so far..........
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