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blankmange
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resurrecting an old thread here:
looking for other culprits for making my '72 run rich....
I already know I need to check/replace the line that runs from the MPC to the intake manifold...
anything else that would make the FI run rich?
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Do the vac line first. Make sure your basic settings are correct, then check the resistance on the cylinder head temp sensor. we'll go from there.
I thought this thread was long dead. What a golden oldie!  |
good threads never die....
thanks for the info; I will be replacing the vacuum line, probably replacing the fouled plugs (if fouled) and will go from there...
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alright after reading this thread i have decided to keep the f.i. on the 71 square i recently aquired. I am the proud owner of now 2 squares, my 69 when i bought it seven years ago that I've done a great deal of work on it and it shows if ya were to see it. well anyway the f.i. was ripped out of it by a local shop that i worked for at a later time. well the 71 i was told it was running rich i had it towed to my home when I started it almost all of the fuel lines were leaking or should i say pouring fuel. replacing fuel ines are not that hard, but can the crimped lines going into the injectors be aquired.
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Gently cut the crimped "can" on the outside away. This will leave a pipette with a barbed end that you can slip the new fuel hose over and clamp it with a small hose clamp. Otherwise you have to buy an entire replacement injector with the short hose already crimped on it. Make sure you're using a higher pressure hose suitable for fuel injection. 
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Hey Tram; I'd never seen this thread before. It's good stuff. If you ever get bored you should make a F.I. troubleshooting guide and have it turned into a sticky.
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| alright after reading this thread i have decided to keep the f.i. on the 71 square i recently aquired |
If it was always at the top of the forum there would probably be more people with this attitude. |
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grantndub
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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thank you tram, i was hoping you would have a good relief for me. it doesn't look like to much of a deal a, i will find out this weekend. i'll am replacing all the fuel lines and hoses. there sure are alot, unlike the one line that T's to the dual carbs on my 69. if i have anyomre questions I will be asking. Later ya'll
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blankmange
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| thank you tram, i was hoping you would have a good relief for me. it doesn't look like to much of a deal a, i will find out this weekend. i'll am replacing all the fuel lines and hoses. there sure are alot, unlike the one line that T's to the dual carbs on my 69. if i have anyomre questions I will be asking. Later ya'll |
just a heads up - if you are replacing all the fuel lines from the tank to the engine and back again, you will need about 20 feet of fuel injection hose (not just any hose will do)... call around and find the best price; VW mechanics can get this stuff for about $1 - $2 a foot -- I found out the hard way and paid way more than that when I redid all my fuel lines....
it pays to plan ahead....
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Hello everyone:
I'm new to type 3's and my buddy just picked up a good looking '72 square. The prob is that it sufered frome an engine fire. The damage was minimal IMO just that the car didn't burn to the ground or even melt the interior carpet, rear glass it gone though. I know NOTHING about F.I. and need to know where to start.
The engine is on the ground and seem to be all there w/ a few extra parts he picked up and never used i.e. throtle body,fan housing, injectors and some I cannot identify.
I simply don't know where to start.
Thanks for your time and I hope to get my Buddy on this site soon.
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The FI trouble shooting guide is on my web site.
http://classicvw.org/gallery/Fuel-Injection-Manual
I use just standard Gas line for VW D-Jet FI. It is rated at 250 psi. And I have tested it to almost 600 psi, before it bursts.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject: New wiring harness? |
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I have lots of 914 Porsche wiring harness customers, but I might be willing to make the D-Jet Fuel Injection and possibly other Type 3 wiring harnesses for T3/T4 owners. I also repair the L-Jet harnesses as well.
Here is my wiring harness website for info, prices for the VWs would be similar:
http://members.rennlist.com/914_wiring_harnesses/
Please contact me directly by email, I may not check this thread often...
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I have seen one or two T3 FI harnesses come through my shop, but do not have any now. So if you needed a new harness I would need a sample to work from. All the parts are the same as the 914, just the configuration is different. Is there any need for T3/T4 alternator or ignition harnesses?
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blankmange
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If you knock off a connection to one of the injectors and try to drive the car, it will run like crap....
Just an FYI thing.... 
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well i almost replaced all the fuel lines in the real of the car. one of the injectors i had a problem getting the crimpped portion off. it was thicker metal, the tip was yellow in color and the other three were mustard color so... i guess it was replaced sometime in the past. i finally got it off but was out of time and i'll finish it this weekend. thank for the heads up blankmange a bit late, i bought 14 feet for about $3 per foot almost $70. i spent too much time at the local autozone answering too many questions on why i need 14 feet of high pressure fuel line. thanks again for help to all. peace.
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| thank for the heads up blankmange a bit late, i bought 14 feet for about $3 per foot almost $70. i spent too much time at the local autozone answering too many questions on why i need 14 feet of high pressure fuel line. thanks again for help to all. peace. |
you still got off easy -- I paid $4.25 per foot.... still sore in all the wrong places over that one....
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You people aren't going to want to hear this.
We are closing one of our plants. I knew there was a bunch of 5/16" fuel injecton hose in the warehouse. I asked what they wanted for it. I would buy it.
I found out today, that it went to the landfill. about 5000 ft of it.
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You people aren't going to want to hear this.
We are closing one of our plants. I knew there was a bunch of 5/16" fuel injecton hose in the warehouse. I asked what they wanted for it. I would buy it.
I found out today, that it went to the landfill. about 5000 ft of it. |
aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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You people aren't going to want to hear this.
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And that wasn't a clue that you shouldn't tell us? 
The title of this thread is "Fuel Injection Relief" not "Sit Here While I Taunt You".
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You people aren't going to want to hear this.
We are closing one of our plants. I knew there was a bunch of 5/16" fuel injecton hose in the warehouse. I asked what they wanted for it. I would buy it.
I found out today, that it went to the landfill. about 5000 ft of it. |
So what are you doing on here?  Get your tookus to the landfill! You'll find it!
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GO RUSS GO!!! We're pullin' for ya.
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I checked on that today, and the waste management company won't say where they dump.
Also, the local landfill does not allow "rag pickers". They also bury stuff almost immediately when it comes into hte landfill, so it is probably 6 feet under by now.
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I checked on that today, and the waste management company won't say where they dump.
Also, the local landfill does not allow "rag pickers". They also bury stuff almost immediately when it comes into hte landfill, so it is probably 6 feet under by now. |
Meh. What's six feet? You want we should all pitch in for a shovel?
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