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flat44ever
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 Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: semaphore question 1950 |
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| does the standard 50 beetle originally have ribbed or smoothed semaphores? |
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Wiggy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: semaphore question 1950 |
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| flat44ever wrote: |
| does the standard 50 beetle originally have ribbed or smoothed semaphores? |
Ribbed.
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lee70airbug
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post jack,
are all the lenses interchangeable,
are they yellow lens smooth semaphores for a 54
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Neil Davies
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I'll carry on with the hijack! Do later semaphores fit the split shell? I've got one and a half broken split semaphores, but I can get hold of '53-'60 semaphores much easier. The car isn't going to be original, so can I use the later ones until I find the cash for correct ones?
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johnshenry 
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Neil Davies wrote: |
| I'll carry on with the hijack! Do later semaphores fit the split shell? I've got one and a half broken split semaphores, but I can get hold of '53-'60 semaphores much easier. The car isn't going to be original, so can I use the later ones until I find the cash for correct ones? |
Yes, the later sems will fit the pocket Neil.
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RareAir
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| lee70airbug wrote: |
are all the lenses interchangeable,
are they yellow lens smooth semaphores for a 54 |
There are 4 different shapes on lenses. (Pre '49, 1949-52, 1953-60 & vert.) And they are all specific to which semaphore you are using. Then there are 2 brands which do not interchange with each other (SHO & SWF) Smooth semaphores (1953-60) will accept the smooth style lenses. Color doesn't matter, so either one will fit. Yellow is for later cars, Orange color for earlier cars
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Neil Davies
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: |
| Neil Davies wrote: |
| I'll carry on with the hijack! Do later semaphores fit the split shell? I've got one and a half broken split semaphores, but I can get hold of '53-'60 semaphores much easier. The car isn't going to be original, so can I use the later ones until I find the cash for correct ones? |
Yes, the later sems will fit the pocket Neil. |
Brilliant, thanks John! 
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lee70airbug
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| lee70airbug wrote: |
are all the lenses interchangeable,
are they yellow lens smooth semaphores for a 54 |
There are 4 different shapes on lenses. (Pre '49, 1949-52, 1953-60 & vert.) And they are all specific to which semaphore you are using. Then there are 2 brands which do not interchange with each other (SHO & SWF) Smooth semaphores (1953-60) will accept the smooth style lenses. Color doesn't matter, so either one will fit. Yellow is for later cars, Orange color for earlier cars |
cheers dude, perfect
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nlorntson
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| There are 4 different shapes on lenses. (Pre '49, 1949-52, 1953-60 & vert.) |
I would argue that the left/right semaphores are found only up through late (mid December) 1949 production and not on cars produced after that time.
If so, that moves your description from Pre 49 to Pre '50, 50-52, 53-60, and vert. The possible descrepency here are Hebmullers.
Does an early Heb (1949) versus a later Heb (ex. 1951) also have the L/R semaphores in convertible profile or are all Heb semaphores interchangeable from side to side but convertible profile? |
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splitvws
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Hebmullers use the same size semaphorer as the sedans. So I would agree with Rare Air on the four differnt shapes of lenses.
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| I have seen a og paint low mile 50 deluxe with l/r in it. |
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twinwindows
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Rareair pretty much hit the nail on the head with that one.Here is a little info on them.
Upto 49 Directional Left and Right.
late 49-53 with orange lenses & vert till 52 (SHO)
54-55 Orange lenses (SWF)
56 and up Yellow lenses (SWF)
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RareAir
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| Rareair pretty much hit the nail on the head with that one. |
 Thanks Carlos. All I know about semaphores has been from what you have told me the last few years.
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| What is the story with the early vert pre 52 ones? I thought they were the same as sedans but I have been told they are shaped more curved to match body lines. My 50 vert was missing the semifore and I had bought the 50 up sedans ones. Do I now have to look for the unatanable? |
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