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bugzey
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 Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: 55 standard - side trim not an Option? |
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55 question..I have a reference book "VOLKSWAGEN Bug! The people's car" by Ray Miller, that I have had for at least 10 years and I use it alot. I just bought a 55 standard sedan bug and there are no holes for the side trim. In the book (the 55 section) it said,
"Only the Deluxe Sedans have the bright-metal body side trim and running board molding"
Does this mean that the standard bugs did not get the molding???
I looked under the hood at the area of the molding and see that the holes have been filled with what looks like lead.
My question is...are there bugs that came from the factory with "no" side molding in 55. Would they fill the holes at the factory as well?
Thanks to all with information!!
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What makes you say your 55 is a standard?
The Ray Miller book has many errors.
If your car has holes that were filled, it means your car had trim on it at one time. The holes could have been punched in by the factory and trim installed then, or some PO installed trim to upgrade the car. Then they were filled later. |
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A 55 standard most deffinetly did not come with the ornate aluminum trim. If you're hod had holes wgich were filled, it may not be the original hood to your car. If you are 100% certain it is the original hood, someone must have previously drilled holes.
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bugzey
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it had standard door panels in it. I figured there were errors in the book but I know you can find more information here.
I remember that in the early cars the factory used lead as a filler...
Did any 55 standard come without side trim and holes from the factory
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RareAir
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Check the inside of the door skin. Any traces of holes being filled in? BTW, Ray Miller's book is great. I love the pictures of VWs taken in the early 80s. As a matter of fact, it was the very first VW book I purchased when I first got interested in VWs
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bugzey
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My first book too..and I still take it with me whenever I go to buy another bug!
Rare...have you seen any other books like that one that is a little more up to date? or have better information?
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RareAir
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My first book too..and I still take it with me whenever I go to buy another bug!
Rare...have you seen any other books like that one that is a little more up to date? or have better information? |
Larence Meredith's "Original VW Beetle" It's also a hardback edition and is chock full of color pics, easily over 300 of them! Same layout as the Miller book, but with more added info such as listing the major changes during each year by chassis # & color listings available during the year.
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Did any 55 standard come without side trim and holes from the factory |
If it was a standard without the trim, it never had the holes. The factory didn't punch the holes then fill them. |
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heres a hint, does it have hydraulic brakes? if it does its not a standard, standards never had side trim, VW did not lead up the holes at the factory, maybe its one of those crazy Canadian Standards?
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Didn't Canadian standards come with side trim and hydraulic brakes, but sparce interior and wingnut seats?
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it had standard door panels in it. I figured there were errors in the book but I know you can find more information here.
I remember that in the early cars the factory used lead as a filler...
Did any 55 standard come without side trim and holes from the factory |
So are you saying that there are no holes in the doors but there are in the body?
My '55 came with Standard doors on it. '52 doors if I can believe the stamping on the window mechanism.
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bugzey
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No, there are holes in the doors that have been filled with lead. As stated in a refrence book I have it said that "Only" 55 deluxe models came with the metal trim. I was unsure if my car was a standard or deluxe. It has standard door panels. I have not looke at the regulators yet...good idea....!!
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New here but playing with VWs since 1979. I currently have a 1959 type 115 Canadian standard sunroof. This is a trim package unique in the world in that it has hydraulic brakes and chrome but standard interior. So I have all the beltline trim as well as chrome hubcaps, door handles etc. I have owned about a half a dozen of these cars over the years and they are all the same in terms of trim. The car is Fiord Blue L434, but a much more common color in Canada for standards is L14 mignonette or reseda green.
The way to tell about your car is if it has holes in the quarters, these can't be unbolted like the doors and hood. Also, does it have clips on the interior B-pillars for headliner? Standards only had headliner in the top of the roof.
I have a friend with a 1949 Belgian standard that is different again.
Chrome also but no belt line trim.
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Yes, what he said ^^^^^
Canadian Standards have beltline trim and chrome hubcaps but no chrome trim on the running boards or window rubber. They also have juice brakes.
The Standard would not have had beltline trim or chrome hubcaps and would have cable brakes.
As far as I know, the only option available on the Standard ovals was sunroof, Canadian Standard ovals had sunroof and a couple different paint colours as options
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