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rddj91
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 Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: more front lift?? |
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| ok, i have a 1970 VW bug all stock im converting to a baja by myself, i want more front lift!! i want 18 inches without spending loads of cash. how do i get more lift?? and one know any guides or anything? |
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Mr. Unpopular
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| I think you're phrasing things wrong here. I think you want 18" of travel, which is quite a bit different than 18" of lift. 18" of travel will be impossible with a ball joint front end which is what your 70 has. You'll need to convert your pan to a link pin setup to get that much travel. |
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USMCord1
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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But 18" of ground clearence is achievable $$$
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Baja Ben
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Florida_Buggy wrote: |
| I think you're phrasing things wrong here. I think you want 18" of travel, which is quite a bit different than 18" of lift. 18" of travel will be impossible with a ball joint front end which is what your 70 has. You'll need to convert your pan to a link pin setup to get that much travel. |
I think you would need some very long training arms to get those numbers. The best i have heard of is 14-15 and that is pushing hard.
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HamburgerBrad
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baja5
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| cut and turn-free.lift spindles-$200.easy peasy japaneasy. |
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buggytrash2001
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: more front lift?? |
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| rddj91 wrote: |
| i want 18 inches without spending loads of cash |
So does my wife!!!! 
Sorry, couldn't help it  |
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USMCord1
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rddj91
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| now i said i wanted 18 inches and i meant ground clearance, i want a baja bug but nothing extremely severe i just want a lil offroad fun, hell im 14 just puttin together a lil summer project, i want 18 inches of ground clearance i don't need that much travel. |
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MadDog69
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Baja Ben wrote: |
| Florida_Buggy wrote: |
| I think you're phrasing things wrong here. |
I think you would need some very long training arms to get those numbers. The best i have heard of is 14-15 and that is pushing hard.
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I am getting better at driving my baja! I should be remove my training arms. 
class 11 looks like he has 18 inches with those stock tires. |
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rddj91
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| rol, he meant trailing arms |
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Jowlz
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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What are you looking for all that lift for?
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runslikeapenguin
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| rddj91 wrote: |
| now i said i wanted 18 inches and i meant ground clearance, i want a baja bug but nothing extremely severe i just want a lil offroad fun, hell im 14 just puttin together a lil summer project, i want 18 inches of ground clearance i don't need that much travel. |
is it ball joint or king/link?
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HamburgerBrad
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| runslikeapenguin wrote: |
| is it ball joint or king/link? |
| rddj91 wrote: |
| ok, i have a 1970 VW bug all stock |
therefore it is safe to assume balljoint.
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rddj91
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| i want all that lift for the look of the bug.... i don't really need it i justl ike when things are really tall like that there are a lot of budget bajas like mine thta just do not have that so i want somethinga lil out of the ordinary.. |
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tuff_puff
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| get a old chevy and jack it up. baja's and rails are ment to perform useable vehicles that do well in lots of situations. putting that much lift on a baja will limit what you can do alot! unless you dont want fenders, or any power, or be able to climb anything, or jump, or handle well, or just about anything a baja is ment to do. me bet would be just get the biggest tire you can fit. turn the beam. lift spindles. and maybee you willl get 18" of clearence |
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vwclass11
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| get a old chevy and jack it up. baja's and rails are ment to perform useable vehicles that do well in lots of situations. putting that much lift on a baja will limit what you can do alot! unless you dont want fenders, or any power, or be able to climb anything, or jump, or handle well, or just about anything a baja is ment to do. me bet would be just get the biggest tire you can fit. turn the beam. lift spindles. and maybee you willl get 18" of clearence |
What are you talking about? I have fenders, I have plenty of power(even when I had 1600sp), I dont jump it much,because I drive mine daily. 18 inches of clearance is possible. Baja5 is right on the money, cut and turn the beam and add lift spindles and call it a day.
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subybaja
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Hey Tuff, don't be a hater...  I agree with you that it's all about function, but not everyone's got $10K to drop. And remember, even the worst poser is still rolling German.
Rddj, bad news- my '69 rig is currently cut/turned to the limit of the BJs (farther than you should), and has Thing spindles.
I just measured it at only 17.5".
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tuff_puff
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| vwclass 11, your right . 18"is possable anything is possable. but for what he is talking about he will need atleast 3" spindles, cut and turn the beam (to the max) and BIG tires, for something you can drive on the streets every day this is hard to do. he will probably need longer trailing arms also. sorry if i came off sounding rude didnt meen to. its just a hard task to overcome |
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subybaja
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:09 am Post subject: |
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I think 16" is a very reasonable goal...
Like I said, my beam was turned too much, so the Bjs are hard against their seats, which is bad. Back that off a little, add $200 in Thing spindles, there you are. And my clearance is with only 235/75/r15 tires, which clear ok.
Oh, yeah- stock rear arms, even at max lift, are still a couple inches lower than that front. 
(this conversation comes up about once a month, to the smallest detail. No wonder Brad's grumpy! Maybe we should make the Stickies like a EULA that you *have* to read first?)
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