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badpanel Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 27 Location: Luton.united kingdom
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:28 pm Post subject: Oil temp sender |
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Hi guys, where is the best place for oil temp sender and where have you got your remote cooler and electric fan mounted on split bus? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76962 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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My temp sender is in the side of the oil sump. _________________ Glenn
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rrobdaw Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 8
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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mine is on a 3 way brass 'T' coming out of the original idiot light location, I can't even get a reading . So I'm going to have to move it. Robert |
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John M. Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2005 Posts: 3833 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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I believe the most accurate spot for temperature readings is the oil pressure relief sender. _________________
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badpanel Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 27 Location: Luton.united kingdom
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Someone was telling me that the best place is in the remote filter mount if you have one, I may give that a try or in the sump!
Thanks guys. |
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AJTowers Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2005 Posts: 98
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Mines on the sump, also. I added this thread to the tech articles sticky, since this question seems to come up alot. _________________ RPM's= Ruins-People's-Motors |
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redhot Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2005 Posts: 447
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Two questions basically:
Going to use the GB 227A I think it is. Just a on/off switch similar to the dipstick version.
1) Place the sender in the sump (bottom plate) Good enough? Or should the gallery be tapped and entered at the type3 stock oil filler location (like Glenn)
2) Since it is going to be spliced into the oil-pressure light wire, is there some way to tweak the signal so that I know it is the temp-sender and not pressure sender? Was thinking of some sort of device that make the light flimmer steadily. Perhaps difficult since it grounds the circuit instead of being on the hot side? |
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Bashr52 Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2006 Posts: 5666 Location: On an island in VA
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I had an oil temp sender that screws into the stock pressure sensor hole. I ran just that in the hole for a while just to see what my temps were before I installed my T fitting for both senders. Drove it twice, then went to take it out to install the T and found it had nicely exploded inside the case and almost completely pluged my oil gallery. It took me a while with a flash light and a dental pick, but i got all the parts and pieces outta the hole. Glad I caught it when I did! I'm a bit weary of that style now and run the one that goes into the drain plug hole. |
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barndoormambo Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2005 Posts: 443 Location: East Coast, Homeland
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: |
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...mine is in the drain hole on an extended sump. Without an external cooler ( but with external filter) , what sort of 'normal ' temps should it be running?.. _________________ ....just cause you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there!.... |
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caslor Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2006 Posts: 387 Location: Hellas - Greece
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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i have two engines.. the one with only one relieve plung and the other with 2 relief plungs..
a) it is good to place a oil temperature sender in the engine with one oil relief?
b) in the engine with 2 oil relief plungers where is the best plug to add this sender?
thanks |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76962 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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redhot wrote: |
1) Place the sender in the sump (bottom plate) Good enough? Or should the gallery be tapped and entered at the type3 stock oil filler location (like Glenn)
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I've since moved my sender so no it's in the oil filter mount. That way I'm seeing the temp as it enters the engine.
_________________ Glenn
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sb778 Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2005 Posts: 98 Location: Columbus,IN
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: |
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I was also thinking of doing that.Does it restrict flow?not much room left inside the oil galley once sender is in.Great location for a accurate reading. |
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redhot Samba Member
Joined: February 05, 2005 Posts: 447
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Cant see why the temperature rise should be so large from the pickup tube to the filter?
Any opinion on the electrical part? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76962 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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sb778 wrote: |
I was also thinking of doing that.Does it restrict flow?not much room left inside the oil galley once sender is in.Great location for a accurate reading. |
There is no restriction. _________________ Glenn
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sb778 Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2005 Posts: 98 Location: Columbus,IN
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Glenn,did you notice a significent temperature change from sump to filter location? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76962 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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sb778 wrote: |
Glenn,did you notice a significent temperature change from sump to filter location? |
Can't say since I have a totally different engine. It's still new and needs to be dialed in, so 'll have to wait and see. _________________ Glenn
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gerg a.k.a. 6volt65
Joined: April 25, 2003 Posts: 5454 Location: Monroe, LA
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: |
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I have 2 senders on my case - one in the type 3 oil block off plate and one in the relief position. The sump temps (type 3 plate) are usually 20 degrees hotter than the relief position.
The relief position is a mixture of cooled oil coming from the external cooler/filter return (bleeding past the piston) and oil in the case sloshing up into the bottom of that relief well.
So 200 at the relief position is usually 240ish at the sump location.
I do think, however, the sender in the type 3 plate is reading high since it is sinking heat out of the case itself. The sender tip is the same casting as the threads - so oil temp and case temps can influence it.
I'll be driving the SC to TX tomorrow and watching the temps - comparing the 2. _________________ Gerg
. . . I got 99 problems and my bus ain't one . . .
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veedubcrazy Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2005 Posts: 2130 Location: La Porte, Tx.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Going to Fredericksburg? _________________ 1967 Deluxe Sedan |
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bugnut68 Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2003 Posts: 4180 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I installed my temp sender on the block off plate at the rear of the engine, where the Type 3 oil filler would go, if the engine were utilized as such. |
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gerg a.k.a. 6volt65
Joined: April 25, 2003 Posts: 5454 Location: Monroe, LA
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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veedubcrazy wrote: |
Going to Fredericksburg? |
Sure am.
Oil cooler fan shroud complete - cosmetics now _________________ Gerg
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