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thebucket Samba Stockbroker
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 10220 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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Sorry for the necro bump. But this is an existing thread on ants.
Onto my problems with ants.
I have been living in my rental house for 9 years.
The previous tenants piled 10 years of garbage in the garage. I didn't know this until after I had moved in and settled for awhile.
BTW, the house was gutted to the frames and refurbished before I moved in.
Every 6 months as the seasons change. I get ants on the counter tops. I can deal with that.
The one annoying thing is that the damn ants keep colonizing in my smoke detectors. This just happened again, today after changing the smoke detectors a few months ago.
I stepped outside and heard the smoke alarm go off.
Nothing cooking, Heater set at 45° F. No fires burning anywhere nearby.
Cussing as I grabbed the vacuum knowing what caused the alarm. Pull the living room alarm off the ceiling and, yep ANTs.
I have tried all the remedies recommended in this thread to no avail.
Terro, did not work at all. Bait traps, do not work at all. Revenge, worked briefly.
The Borax, powered sugar, yeast concoction worked for the counter top ants. But the colony living in the attic spaces is unaffected by these concoctions.
Honestly, I can tolerate the bi-annual counter top ants.
It's the smoke detector invaders that are pissing me off.
I can leave the detectors hanging by the power wires and the ants leave them alone. But, even for me. That looks tackier than even I can tolerate.
Are there any new ant control innovations in the last twelve years since this thread was started, that are worth a try? _________________ I have learned over the years.
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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My employer had Combat products, so for ants you need to destroy the colony.
So choose a product with either fipronil or hydramethylnon as active ingredient; the ants share it with their little friends in the colony, kills them all. Same with roaches.
New colonies get started by winged queen ants which drift in and start new colonies. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34912 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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If you can get into that crawl/attic space, try dispersing diazinon granules all over. Wear a mask.
I had ants coming out of switches and outlets and even shower handles, so I know they were in the walls, and likely got there crawling around the tight attic space.
Granules into walls (holes drilled and sealed) and attic finally got rid of them. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 10220 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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I'm reading that ants don't like pepper, Black or Cheyenne.
Maybe I'll try some Cheyenne pepper on the hidden side of my smoke detectors. It can't hurt to give it a try.
Cusser and KTPhil thanks for your input. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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74 Thing Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2004 Posts: 7533
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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I think talcum powder too and cayenne |
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2type2 Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2002 Posts: 1054 Location: SW Colorado
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:36 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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FWIW, I have been state licensed in 5 states to not just do PC , but as a certified operator (the honcho),35 years now. First of all you have to know your enemy! DON'T DO anything if you have not positively id'd the pest. If you do the wrong thing you multiply the problem, as in feeding terro to attract + ants whose reproduction rate far exceeds the attrition rate the bait causes. So, find out what you are battling first.
If terro proves to be a good approach, my advice is..... make your own from karo syrup and boric acid......add about 10% water by volume to the karo syrup, than add 5% , by WEIGHT ....(Use a scale), volume of boric,blend well.
Otherwise you also need to be aware that if you spray all over for the "wrong" ants, you risk causing colony budding and dispersal, to the worst end.
Chemicals are toxic,poisonous, and deadly. Did you know there is no antidote for boric poisoning? Especially considering pets and kids like sweet syrup.
Be careful, you can pm me if u want. _________________ "A life of peace and happiness depends on your own gratefulness" |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23946 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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there are many things that can help.some may or may not work. dominion 2L isant a killer...from what Ive read.but it does make them for get where home is and they die off or something like that....and will not affect anything but bugs!!!! dont hurt crops,or pets or lizzards!!. filling holes wont do squat but make more holes.you may need to treet under the foundation....and in the walls..and a premiter around building. and make a feeding staiton for them about 300 feet away...when they all go there...then kill the rest of them off.. or however you wish to handle them. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34912 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:38 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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My fave ant story... my friend and I ran a darkroom in his garage. In the asphalt driveway nearby there were cracks that, when it rained or when it was hit with water, expelled an army of ants carrying eggs like I've never seen before! Countless ants, covering more than a square yard solid, which would later make their way into the house. We tried all the usual remedies, poisons, even a blow torch down the hole. Didn't even slow 'em down.
Finally, in a fit of anger, we dumped about a pint of stop bath concentrate, aka, 28% acetic acid, pH 3, down the hole. That stuff made the asphalt smoke!
No more ants, either in the driveway, or the house.
Probably should be an EPA Superfund site now...
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Jon Schmid Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2012 Posts: 2078 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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I was told corn starch works but it has never worked for me. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23014 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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If you go the Green route , make sure you get sold an anteater and not an Aardvark. There was a guy Arthur here selling aardvarks on PBS not ago. He thought he was King of the Britons, too. _________________ .ssS! |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23946 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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well.....any updates ??? |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23014 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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Might have been too steep a Hill to climb.. _________________ .ssS! |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23946 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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I saw on the you tube thingys today...a billet 3D aluminum CNC ANT BEING MADE....TINY LITTLE CRITTER... eye shoulda got the linky thingy fer it. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23014 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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Ants in smoke detectors?
Fire ants, Shirley? _________________ .ssS! |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 10220 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Ants |
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mark tucker wrote: |
well.....any updates ??? |
Well for the time being. The ant attack has subsided.
Cheyenne pepper seems to really drive the ants away from my pantry.
They were attracted to my latest fermentation project, in the pantry.
Also the smoke detectors have been quiet after I dusted the top (hidden) side.
Next I'll try the kero syrup and boric (Borax) acid solution a try and see how that works out.
That is, if needed. But based on the history of the house. I'll need to give that a try in about 4 months. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23946 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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https://youtu.be/AzSMliTM-eM
that should scare them away, especialy if you can add a remote&camera to invade the colonies... |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 10220 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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mark tucker wrote: |
https://youtu.be/AzSMliTM-eM
that should scare them away, especialy if you can add a remote&camera to invade the colonies... |
Thanks Mark. I saw that in the " My milling machine is bigger" thread.
I don't think that ant is robotic. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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Crushed up Bay leaves work as well! Just so you have more options. They hate those things. I crush them up and sprinkle them in and around a few places in the house when the wet season comes to town. So, 2 days this year! Works like a charm!
Also, if you have ants really badly, you may have termites. Some types of ants (little black shit heads) (the name I have given them) harvest the secretions of dry rot and subterranean termites. SO, you may have a termite issue. Get rid of the termites and the ants leave. Well, they follow the termites! _________________ Jimbo
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NJ John Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2499 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Ants |
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The hat Terror tell is what works for me. Works real good. _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
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