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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:50 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Don't know about kerosene but I've used this stuff. It doesn't seem to affect the paint.
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myghiarocks Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2009 Posts: 143 Location: DFW area Texas
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:39 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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kgj wrote: |
Don't know about kerosene but I've used this stuff. It doesn't seem to affect the paint.
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Thanks. I will have to see if it is available in the US. |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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An observation about POR15 paint.
Got my first tin of it a year ago. Goes on rusty metal like nothing else, but, if the metal is a bit shiny or Like new I have found that once dry it can be flaked off easily.
What I should have done is pay attention to the instructions.
1. Degrease.
2. Use Metal prep and ready. This etches the metal and leaves a zinc phosphate coating the POR15 sticks to.
3. Apply the POR15 paint.
I thought steps 1 and 2 were just to sell more product. Turns out, it actually leads to a more resilient finish.
It also seems a bit counter intuitive to be using water based products on metal, only to be washing them off with more water. So I did this part of the job outside on a hot sunny day so the pan dried off quickly once washed off.
But, having put the effort in to do as instructed these are the results of the first coat.
POR15 really does seem to be a good product. A year ago, when I was repairing the newly acquired 1958 door, I had to cut in some patches. Just out of interest I took a really rusty section I cut out of the door, painted it with one coat of POR15, and as a trial left it outside on my patio exposed to the elements. As you can see it was a rusty and holed bit of old VW but no rust has broken through the bit I painted so far in the 1 year of outside exposure to UK weather.
I'll leave it there to see how long it lasts.
Thanks for looking. _________________ 1958 coupe |
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bobnorman Samba Newfoundlander
Joined: August 09, 2010 Posts: 1389 Location: Newfoundland
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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I felt the same way about the POR process... Feels just ..wrong.. to be spraying your newly naked blasted and cleaned parts with water. I did get some flash rust on my chassis, but put faith in the process. Yes, I do believe you have to follow the instructions and use all three products. Though, it says to keep the Metal Prep wet and active for 10 minutes before washing it off- again, felt wrong to be spraying water on it. _________________ Air does not freeze. Air does not boil.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=289807 |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:02 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Progress report.
Floor pan painted. Springplate fixings wire wheeled clean, greased threads and refitted.
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:50 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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So the left fender is in need of repair. Headlight area as well as the nostril.
So, how to get the sides to match with so much to replace and not a straight line anywhere on the car to work from?
I've measured it so many times in every direction then as a precaution got a lazer level and shimmed the whole shell to make sure that was level as a starting point.
Then I can get horizontal lazer lines across the front at any point.
In this photo I've put a line of tape on a horizontal line to verify measurements from this line to the headlight, indicator and nostril parts, one side to the other.
And because the inner fender Has been bent there is a bit to straighten out right at the top where the inner and outer fender form the hood seal chanel.
My plan is to cut off some of the fender to facilitate inner fender and air duct repair. Make that good again and then final fix the headlight and nostril area.
Im still undecided where to cut as you can tell by my doodling, except this bit here under the nostril where I can follow a factory seam.
Just going to spend another evening thinking about it before I do anything drastic.
Thanks for looking. _________________ 1958 coupe |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Thought about it enough. Got the grinder out.
The anatomy of the inner fender.
Once the air duct was removed cut away the mangled metal.
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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This might be of interest to someone.
I bought an inner fender repair panel to replace my bent part.
You can only buy a 1960- part which has the cutout to accommodate the larger air intake. So my plan is to weld in a patch cut from my original part.
The only other difference I can see is the repair panel does not have this pressing in it.
Here is the repair panel and the missing pressing.
My first assumption was that maybe lowlights have this minor difference in the pressing, but I've just been and checked my 1970 and it too has this pressing. So, the repair panel is a simpler shape and even when used on a 1960- car is not exactly the same as original.
Started to cut the part down and get the correct location.
Thanks for looking. _________________ 1958 coupe |
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Loren Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2004 Posts: 1702
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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It looks like you are really making some good progress! Keep up the good work.
Don't forget to fill in the fresh air box cut out in the new panel. |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:35 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Cut a fill in piece from the 58 year old original part. I thought it would be worth retaining the wiring hole rather than cut a new one.
To go into the new repair panel.
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3918 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:57 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Thanks for the positive comments.
On the 12th July 2013 I emailed Kevin Ferguson in Australia to see if he could supply some door panels to me.
Several emails about detail and just over 3 years later I received this in the post today. Where does the time go!
Opening a box with new bits for your car is always exciting.
I am fortunate enough to have Mr Ferguson make me a complete interior for CJ. seat upholstery, door panels and pulls, trunk liner etc.
This stuff looks really good. I love the detail. Highly recomended.
This order might be a bit previous but at least I paid for it before the UK Voted to leave the EU.
Better get back to the garage.
Thanks for looking. _________________ 1958 coupe |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Small update.
Inner fender now has the cutout filled in and a coat of POR 15 grey especially for the bit where the rubber part fits over the return. Here it is in place to line up with existing pressings. The fender is just held in place with butt weld clamps for alignment.
Even with the pressings lining up the part needs trimming down in the trunk area as it sits proud of the fender line.
Trimmed off accordingly.
Still plenty of work to do on this......
Seeing as I got my Kevin Ferguson interior recently I thought I would tackle the seats this morning seeing as my upholsterer guy always takes ages to do anything once given a project. For once I'm going to strip the frames down and get them sand blasted and painted (copying other samba posters) in preparation then just drop the lot off and wait for the finished product. Saves having this stuff laying around doing nothing.
Recovered like this in South Africa.
Disassembled by me this morning.
And dropped off for blast and spray this afternoon. Also pulled the gear stick and e brake lever to be done at the same time.
Thanks for looking. _________________ 1958 coupe |
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Loren Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2004 Posts: 1702
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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You are making great progress! Keep up the good work!
Am I seeing things correctly with those seat bottoms? They look like later seats. If Kevin made seat covers specifically for low light seats then his covers might not fit right (if those are in deed later seats). Just throwing this out there in case you fit the covers and they don't fit.
Thanks for the updates on your Ghia, great inspiration! |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Thanks and well spotted.
You are right about the seat bases and it was also noticed by Kevin when when I sent photos a while back. hopefully, the upholstery is made to the measurements of these seats.
We will soon find out. _________________ 1958 coupe |
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Loren Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:39 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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That is great news! It's nice to have people like Kevin who know KGs so well and provide such a great service for the KG community. |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:40 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Agreed.
Bits back from painting.
Off to be trimmed this week.
Thanks for looking _________________ 1958 coupe |
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SoCalJes Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2011 Posts: 1093 Location: Broward, FL
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:10 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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Looking good, Great job! _________________ Jesse
71 Ghia
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Just because it didn't come that way, doesn't mean it shouldn't have. |
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obieoberstar Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1127 Location: Tucson
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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I love your devotion to fixing this car even though it seemed like you would not get it imported at first.
Wonderful job on the metal work.
Keep us followers posted on updates. |
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kgj Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2013 Posts: 418 Location: Uk, Cornwall
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:23 am Post subject: Re: CJ from South Africa. |
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It's been a while. Other stuff demanding time.
Three and a half months later...
I spent a while last night back on the front fender repair. Inner fender panel cut to shape I think but comparing to the other side, the nose cone part fits so tightly this will need welding in with the rubber seal already in place? I can't see how you would get this in after. Anyone?
A real tight fit but I don't want to cut the panel back just to make life easy.
Thanks for looking. _________________ 1958 coupe |
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