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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: racer spacer instalation Reply with quote

How do you get these on ? I've left mine on a hotplate for 20 minutes and cant even get it down close to the key way. Do I need to press it on. It's a scat model if that helps
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a torch to expand it, hot plates are too slow.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a torch too. Never fails. Just drops in there like a loose coin.

Don't worry you are not going to damage it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it have a black oxide finish or is it raw steel?

The black oxide ones I've used in the past needed barely any heating.

I installed a CB Performance spacer (which was raw steel) and it was a very tight fit on a DMS 69mm crank even after heating. Had to tap it home with a brass drift.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looked black now blue Laughing I'll take it up to work and use a torch I just tried it again at 30 minutes and the hot plate on high. The glove's I used were smokin and within 2 minutes it was cool to the touch. About 10 minutes later I went to get the dist drive gear wich I took off at the same time and it burnt the shit out of me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with the stock one and if this is force on it may crack.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try the torch and if it dosen't work i'll put the stock one on.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've n the stock one o over 7500 and know others who have taken them to 9000.

The racer spacer was the answer to a question never asked.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always believe in the stock spacer untill one of the thick German with the VW stamped on it open up and destroyed the case and parts around it. This was in an limited engine off road race car where the driver shifted missed a shift, go down a gear instead of going up. Who knows what kind of RPM the engine was turning when it happen. After that all the racing engines I did used a racer spacer.
Still use the stock spacer on stock and play engines.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay I used my butane torch and tapped it down into place then the brass gear. Then put on the snap ring wich fits loose I think it might be stretched is their a place I can buy these 2 snap rings?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay let me make shure I'm getting this in the correct sequence.
#3 main bearing
steel timing gear
racer spacer
brass drive gear
snap ring
#4 main bearing
then is it a snap ring
and the oil slinger
then woodruf key
or is their only one snapring I can't tell by the pic in my book
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Crankshaft spacer Reply with quote

I have been only using the stock spacer on modified engines, but I don't run them past 6,000rpms... In my case and application and rpms, they do good.. Never a problem in 30 years.. ----George
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i write racer on the hundreds of stock ones i have can i sell them as racer. because in 40years of racing we have never broke a stock one. but if i can sell them more has racer one, why not.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rare for the snap ring to fit tight. No woory, it in't going any where, but if want you canget all the oil off and put some green lok tite on it before you install.


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Okay I used my butane torch and tapped it down into place then the brass gear. Then put on the snap ring wich fits loose I think it might be stretched is their a place I can buy these 2 snap rings?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay thanks James
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The snap ring will not go anywhere, but you do not want it loose in its groove or it will eat the groove as the crank turns.

After you have put the snap ring in the groove, pull up on all the gears up against the snap ring with a puller. The small pressure will keep it from moving around. There is not really any up and down movement on the gearstack but that tiny bit of push can secure the snap ring against the groove.

Apply just enough pressure to move the gearstack up a little. The snap ring will just peg itself against the groove.

Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often question the need for the ring at all.

nsracing wrote:
The snap ring will not go anywhere, but you do not want it loose in its groove or it will eat the groove as the crank turns.

After you have put the snap ring in the groove, pull up on all the gears up against the snap ring with a puller. The small pressure will keep it from moving around. There is not really any up and down movement on the gearstack but that tiny bit of push can secure the snap ring against the groove.

Apply just enough pressure to move the gearstack up a little. The snap ring will just peg itself against the groove.

Enjoy.

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