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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

sgellis wrote:
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how did you prevent the pipes for not burning throught?

I would be afraid to not get the cables in later.

-Christian


I did a few test welds before I got the process down.

I made sure the tubes fit tight together with no visible gaps. The tig was set around 40 amp and I used very short burns so just enough to liquefy a small spot (3mm +/-) and no filler rod used. I had almost 0 build on the inside. On the 8mm tubes I ran a 5mm tube through to insure there was no blockage and could barely tell where the welds were. I could look through the 12mm tubes to check for any blockage.

I made each tube about 250mm longer than needed so I could just cut out bad welds and try again. All went better than expected and didn't mess any up.


Perfect!!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

really looking forward to this project! great craftsmanship right there!
Since i`m about to start my chassis also soon and i`m not sure if it`s still straight as it should, could you help me out with some measurements?

I need the measurements marked as RED and want to know if the green lines are both leveled?

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I used your picture i hope thats ok Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

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I need the measurements marked as RED and want to know if the green lines are both leveled?


The green lines are level. Frame width is 1004mm, There is a variation in this between busses but believe 1004 is what they were aiming for.

Best to measure end of frame from torsion tube. Frame is 1090mm from center of torsion tube to end of frame measured horizontally along frame rail.

Have a look at my drawings on Grabcad.
https://grabcad.com/the.nova.scotia.barndoor-1
See the rear frame set. Download and open the pdf drawings or complete set. You will need to create an account to download. I continue to add to these sets as I progress on my build.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

sgellis wrote:
jzAircooled wrote:

I need the measurements marked as RED and want to know if the green lines are both leveled?


The green lines are level. Frame width is 1004mm, There is a variation in this between busses but believe 1004 is what they were aiming for.

Best to measure end of frame from torsion tube. Frame is 1090mm from center of torsion tube to end of frame measured horizontally along frame rail.

I have a look at my drawings on Grabcad.
https://grabcad.com/the.nova.scotia.barndoor-1
See the rear frame set. Download and open the pdf drawings or complete set. You will need to create an account to download. I continue to add to these sets as I progress on my build.



Exactly what i needed! Thank you so much!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Control tubes fitted

I didn't weld anything. They welded to the top hats or from below so will weld later. The clutch tube will get trimmed when I fit the trans as the original was rusted off. Will also trim the park brake and heater tubs after welding.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

The green lines are in fact parallel. From the top of my head, the rear frame is 95mm higher than the main middle section. I need to verify this.
Please note that the transmission horns, are definitely pointing down ! they are not parallel with the main chassis rails.


jzAircooled wrote:
really looking forward to this project! great craftsmanship right there!
Since i`m about to start my chassis also soon and i`m not sure if it`s still straight as it should, could you help me out with some measurements?

I need the measurements marked as RED and want to know if the green lines are both leveled?

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I used your picture i hope thats ok Smile



top work sgellis ! looking great !
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Started a new panel.

This one will take some experimenting. Figured out how to do the side patch. 3 different radius bends. I added 20g to the brake for one and 14g to the other and they came out very good.

Going to make custom dies for the bead roller to do along the opening. May take a few tries. Bends are too close to do in the brake.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Difficult bit done.

Printed custom dies for the bead roller. Wasn't perfect but with a little work I was able to match the original profile around opening.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Closer. Just the front to do.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Well done brother! Looks very clean. Applause
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2024 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Under seat panel installed

That was a lot of work but very happy with how it came out.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2024 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Now on to some rather ruff wheel wells.

I took photos with the paint wet to show the uneven ribs. Originally I though it was just damage but now thinking it may be from poor stamping. You can see the ripples on the flat areas that seems to extend to the ribs.

Does anyone have a photo of the rib or notice similar? I don't want to fix this if it was a manufacturing defect.

Also an interesting find is the holes for seat bumpers where hand drilled. After media blasting I could see the burrs on the bottom and the holes are not quite round like they used a dull bit. I had noticed before that the holes were not positioned the same left/right.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2024 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Confirmed the rib distortion is original.

Started making repair parts. Should have pressed in the short rib and then added the bends.

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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

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Under seat panel installed

That was a lot of work but very happy with how it came out.

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Great work!!! Applause Applause Applause
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Experimenting with pressing the fender X. 3D printed dies but I need to make some adjustments to the shape and print them solid. Also I need to pre stretch the steel before pressing to prevent warping.

So I believe this will work great with some adjustments.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

These wheel wells are taking some time.

Started patching the easy part. Slow work to get everything perfect.

Got the difficult section of top ribs ruffed in. Combination of bead roller and press. Came out quite good but needs a bit more work to make them nice and smooth. Also needs some shrinking on the end.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2024 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Wow.
Nice work.
Been following your builds for years and appreciate you taking the time.


https://www.klassicfab.com/product/kf167-complete-wheel-well-right-side-5155/
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2024 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Clatter wrote:

https://www.klassicfab.com/product/kf167-complete-wheel-well-right-side-5155/
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Just take all the fun out of it. haha
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

I like Klassic Fab parts very much, but Stan is really making every part he works on perfect. This bus is looking great!
Thank You for sharing with us Stan.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2024 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Nova Scotian 54 standard restoration Reply with quote

Pressed in the X

I printed a new die and it did a much nicer job. Still needs quite a bit of tidying and shrinking on the edge. All the issues can be fixed with a little time.

Happy with how it is coming along. Hardest part done anyway.

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