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Tobo Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2024 Posts: 20 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:23 pm Post subject: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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My favorite uncle passed. By inherited I mean I bought it from the estate.
Uncle had the conversion done by his neighbor Mike in Costa Mesa. Mikes dad did these Subaru conversions in Germany and when Mikes dad flew over from Germany and showed him how to do it- it was on my uncle’s 86 westfalia van. Uncle before he passed mentioned Mike had since moved.
Had it towed to my dad’s driveway. It won’t start. Fuel relay clicks but voltmeter says no power to pump. ordered 2 more fuel pump relays. Started replacing rubber fuel lines and fuel filter. Can confirm that fuel line to pump has fuel, and fuel pump runs when given 12v direct.
1. Anyone know where the fuel pressure sensor and the pressure sensor relay is on a Subaru conversion? I don’t see it on the engine where my Subaru Haynes manual says it should be, (has empty bolt holes) and I don’t see it where the vw Haynes manual says it should be. I can’t find them. I followed the fuel line from fuel filter to engine compartment and afaict it looks like it goes to splitter then to each cylinder.
The + wire from fuel pump goes into a wiring sleeve protector with a bunch other wires. Things are old and brittle. I’m scared of wires breaking or coming disconnected. I also see stray wires occasionally. This is also concerning.
2. Am I going to have a problem smogging this Subaru powered vanagon in California?
3. I remember my uncle talking about some fuse that blows out due to Subaru and makes van not run. Does anyone familiar with Subaru conversions know what fuse this might be? And where it might be?
4. Anyone know of a shop by Long Beach or Huntington Beach (or better yet mobile mechanic) in SoCal that specializes in VW Subaru Conversions or experienced working on Vw Subaru conversions in case I can’t get it to start?
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12021 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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What subaru engine and year? |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6378 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1508 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:04 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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You need battery power and ignition power to the fuel pump relay and a ground supplied by the ECU. One terminal should always be hot on the FP relay. THis is battery power. There should be 2 fuses for battery power and ignition power (possibly in the black box left upper firewall in engine bay or near the ECU)
Connect the 2 green test connectors together (on harness usually near ECU) and turn the key to ON. The relays should be clicking, solenoids and fuel pump cycling. If not check the fuses as above. Disconnect the green connectors afterwards. |
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wesitarz Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2012 Posts: 1508 Location: Victoria,B.C.Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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Subarus have a fuel pressure regulator located at the left rear of the intake manifold |
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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1894 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:10 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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was sitting for years.....
first thing is drain all the old gas and dispose, fill with fresh gas. |
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vanis13 Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 3115 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:13 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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Isn't Waldo a mobile mechanic in S. cA? _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
www.SuperVanagon.com - some stuff I make |
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mikemtnbike Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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No, unless things have changed from when he had another samba handle and included his location.
Now, markswagen is in San Diego and if that's close to the OP, I wouldn't hesitate to give him a call. And, OP- pics so we can all be jealous! _________________ 1991 Vanagon GL 2.1 AT Westfauxlia. "Frankie" Totaled https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764510&highlight=carnage
1995 Eurovan Camper "Marzivan"
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vanis13 Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 3115 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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Tobo wrote: |
My favorite uncle passed. By inherited I mean I bought it from the estate.
Uncle had the conversion done by his neighbor Mike in Costa Mesa. Mikes dad did these Subaru conversions in Germany and when Mikes dad flew over from Germany and showed him how to do it- it was on my uncle’s 86 westfalia van. Uncle before he passed mentioned Mike had since moved.
Had it towed to my dad’s driveway. It won’t start. Fuel relay clicks but voltmeter says no power to pump. ordered 2 more fuel pump relays. Started replacing rubber fuel lines and fuel filter. Can confirm that fuel line to pump has fuel, and fuel pump runs when given 12v direct.
1. Anyone know where the fuel pressure sensor and the pressure sensor relay is on a Subaru conversion? I don’t see it on the engine where my Subaru Haynes manual says it should be, (has empty bolt holes) and I don’t see it where the vw Haynes manual says it should be. I can’t find them. I followed the fuel line from fuel filter to engine compartment and afaict it looks like it goes to splitter then to each cylinder.
The + wire from fuel pump goes into a wiring sleeve protector with a bunch other wires. Things are old and brittle. I’m scared of wires breaking or coming disconnected. I also see stray wires occasionally. This is also concerning.
2. Am I going to have a problem smogging this Subaru powered vanagon in California?
3. I remember my uncle talking about some fuse that blows out due to Subaru and makes van not run. Does anyone familiar with Subaru conversions know what fuse this might be? And where it might be?
4. Anyone know of a shop by Long Beach or Huntington Beach (or better yet mobile mechanic) in SoCal that specializes in VW Subaru Conversions or experienced working on Vw Subaru conversions in case I can’t get it to start? |
Oh, and Tobo, helpful to see a reply on here from you so we know our advice is being looked at otherwise we conclude you no longer are looking for a solution so we abandon the thread
....and if you did solve it, please post up the solution so othera can benefit _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
www.SuperVanagon.com - some stuff I make |
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Red Ryder Samba Member
Joined: June 26, 2021 Posts: 961 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
What subaru engine and year? |
Pretty critical data if you intend to smog it in CA. CARB (California Air Resources Board) is very restrictive on these conversions.. _________________ “Most everyone’s mad here. You may have noticed I am not quite all there myself.” — Cheshire Cat, Adventures of Alice in Wonderland
“Scarlett” — 1990 Vanagon Carat Wolfsburg Edition
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 6661 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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I think Waldo is in southern Arizona, and very much second contacting Markswagen for service near San Diego. _________________ ‘84 Westy, 2.1L with Digijet, 5.43 R+P, GT Gears
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
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Tobo Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2024 Posts: 20 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
What subaru engine and year? |
I am unsure. The Subaru Haynes manual is for Subaru Legacy 1990-1999
Which means either 2.2L sohc or 2.5L dohc according to the manual.
Edit gotta figure out how to post photos
Pops says it’s an EJ22
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Tobo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22699 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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2. Am I going to have a problem smogging this Subaru powered vanagon in California? |
Yes _________________ .ssS! |
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shagginwagon83 Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 3820 Location: VA/TN
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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EJ22E, probably phase 1 being in CA. _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
Instagram @joannthevan
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GoEverywhere Samba Member
Joined: December 13, 2020 Posts: 522 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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Looks like your typical EJ. Could be the 2.0, 2.2, or 2.5. Look behind the alternator there should be a raised stamping that says something like EJ25. The numbers after the EJ are the displacement. So EJ25 would be a 2.5L. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12021 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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That looks like a ej22 but there are different versions of those as well depending on the year. Get the ECU model number, that could help you narrow down the year.
It appears that it is a KEP kit so that will help you with getting it smogged in CA. If you can find a KEP placard in the engine compartment that will help you greatly with smog, that is the executive order golden ticket.
Look in the black box in the engine compartment, they often wire in fuses there with the modified wiring harness.
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Tobo Samba Member
Joined: April 25, 2024 Posts: 20 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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looks like ej22 |
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
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Tobo Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Inherited ‘86 So.California Subaru Westy. Was sitting for years. |
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E1 wrote: |
I think Waldo is in southern Arizona, and very much second contacting Markswagen for service near San Diego. |
San Diego is about 2 hours drive south of me. |
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