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John Moxon 
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owokie
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 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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| John Moxon wrote: |
The same as "color", only spelt correctly.  |
"Spelt":
Something like this, only not narrowed and lowered, and with euro bumpers. God, is there anything worse than a bunch of inappropriate negative camber? I do kinda like the 17" raiders though.
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John Moxon
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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| owokie wrote: |
| John Moxon wrote: |
The same as "color", only spelt correctly. |
"Spelt":
Something like this, only not narrowed and lowered, and with euro bumpers. God, is there anything worse than a bunch of inappropriate negative camber? I do kinda like the 17" raiders though.
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You're going to have to get used to "English" English...I don't speak 'Merican.
I'm not here to tell you how to restore your '59 but it's pretty clear I don't like extreme lowering which IMO is ugly. My argument is also nobody narrowed a beam because it looks good, it's because occasionally you might want to turn a corner.
Looks like you have a 36hp 1200cc engine, rebuild it and you can augment the power output with some Vintage Speed go-faster goodies later...that's a lot of fun.
After market wheels; yep there is plenty of choice some look good, try to go for the rarer choice but stock steelies also have a killer look IMO. You're *spoilt for choice. "*spoilt" is "English" English for spoiled. 
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owokie
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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| John Moxon wrote: |
You're going to have to get used to "English" English...I don't speak 'Merican.
I'm not here to tell you how to restore your '59 but it's pretty clear I don't like extreme lowering which IMO is ugly. My argument is also nobody narrowed a beam because it looks good, it's because occasionally you might want to turn a corner.
Looks like you have a 36hp 1200cc engine, rebuild it and you can augment the power output with some Vintage Speed go-faster goodies later...that's a lot of fun.
After market wheels; yep there is plenty of choice some look good, try to go for the rarer choice but stock steelies also have a killer look IMO. You're *spoilt for choice. "*spoilt" is "English" English for spoiled. |
Fair, enough, spent a bit of time over there and just taking the mick.
I love the old sewing machine sound of an ACVW, but also love the instant torque and quiet of electric so holding on that decision for now. Will likely stick with the stock wheels, and I'm liking your suggestion of black even more.
Bought some stuff on WW/JB, German/OEM where possible. Running total update:
Car: 9500
Go and get it: 150
Brakes/chassis/seals: 680
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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Black and red interior would look super sharp and vintage cause if you are going to run a 36hp like it or not you are officially vintage and only stock Nazi vintage guys will talk to you but not if you put Raiders on it.
I run a stroked, big bored 36hp with OG Okrasa kit and that car is a blast to drive. 75mph cruising easy, 80mph if I want to show off, but the custom goons won’t even look twice at my car. Just stock Nazis like you
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owokie
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| Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
Black and red interior would look super sharp and vintage cause if you are going to run a 36hp like it or not you are officially vintage and only stock Nazi vintage guys will talk to you but not if you put Raiders on it.
I run a stroked, big bored 36hp with OG Okrasa kit and that car is a blast to drive. 75mph cruising easy, 80mph if I want to show off, but the custom goons won’t even look twice at my car. Just stock Nazis like you |
Yeah, well then it sounds like boring and stock everywhere except the raiders would be cause for nobody to talk to me. Add to cart.
Dunno about the ghia crowd as it's been forever. I know many in the aircooled bus crowd I interact with have zero interest in being in the same place as watercooled campers to the point of being a bit standoffish. Whatevs.
In other news, so far today we have 3 answers in the "can you paint my car" game. One doesn't return calls.
1. We only do insurance work
2. Sure, it'll be at least $10k and I can start in 2025, and
3. No.
All in all, a good excuse to purchase the Primeweld TIG225X. And I'm even still sober! |
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Evil_Fiz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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...In other news, so far today we have 3 answers in the "can you paint my car" game. One doesn't return calls.
1. We only do insurance work
2. Sure, it'll be at least $10k and I can start in 2025, and
3. No.
All in all, a good excuse to purchase the Primeweld TIG225X. And I'm even still sober! |
Do your metal work then head over to http://www.spiuserforum.com/index.php and learn everything you need to know so you can "body and paint" the car yourself. They are a great crowd of pros and amateurs willing to help and share knowledge. It's like The Samba but for paint and body related stuff. I have learned a ton from them and I am really close to spraying my first coat of primer on bare metal thanks to their help.
We're all in this together,
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owokie
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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Brakes almost back together. Gonna be tough to get enough energy density from the current state of batteries to get 75 miles desired range without pushing GVW, thus will rehab the 36hp that came with her. Genny was loose and a little mayo in the case, fingers crossed. Gonna guess this one ran a bit hot
Also bought a bunch of tulz to make my life easier and this project more fun, won't count that but did drop some more cash with WW. Also really needed a TIG setup, so drop a grand on that too.
Car: 9500
Go and get it: 150
Brakes/chassis/seals: 680
Clutch, tie rods, various engine parts: 560
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owokie
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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Given the DIY paint plan, will have to nix metallics (graphite/diamond/dolphin) as I don't love BC/CC and don't trust myself to get it right with a SS metallic. Switching to pearl white which may have been present in '58 on a coupe and obviously on cabs. Will also match the grey/red interior already present and usable. Next step paint engine bay and trunk so I can start putting wiring, old 36hp back in, ordering SS urethane from TCP as the local jobber can't help.
Used $200 Hobbyair on the way for supplied air, oldy but goody craftsman 7cfm 220v compressor for $80 acquired which should team up with my 4cfm unit to give me *just* enough air.
My car when "rescued" two POs ago in '17, resprayed white from red.
Really like this cab, perhaps a two-tone with oatmeal-colored top would be appropriate.
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owokie
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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Been busy rebuilding all the "systems", done with brakes brand new and German all around, front steering/suspension, rear axle reseal, and most of the motor ancillaries. Forgot how much damn fun old aircooled stuff is to work on. Found this little gem somebody along the way made, an attempt to eliminate the terrible z-bar design is my guess?
Bought a bunch more parts, tires, paint. Decided to stick with graphite silver and have a gallon of single stage urethane for the engine bay/trunk/insides of doors/fenders etc. Once that's done, can mount engine, fuel, and new wiring works harness and get her out for a highly illegal cruise around the neighborhood. Colorado allows YOM plates, scored this one, '58 is fortunately the only year with the little skier
Will need to figure out how to rebuild these sagging hinges, anyone make an oversize pin with the proper reamer? John Copello doesn't do it anymore, suppose I can convince the friend with the machine shop to turn some pins if I must.
Decided on some tires, can't see springing for the astronomical Cokers and plan to daily this old girl, so found some radials in the 155 size, these with a whitewall somewhere between the two sizes Coker has. They seem to have the "metric" look I'm after and are cheap at $81/ea and decently reviewed elsewhere, can't find anything on this site about them. Will update upon arrival
Out of town for the rest of the week, then painting fun begins....
Car: 9500
Go and get it: 150
Brakes/chassis/seals: 680
Clutch, tie rods, various engine parts: 560
Used starter, dizzy: 120
Paint/primer round one: 750
Stainless exhaust etc: 500
Various electrical bits/body stuff: 200
Tires (Radar dimax classic 155r15): 350
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owokie
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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Well you guys are just a hoot.
Birth certificate came, no big surprises aside from German delivery with US spec. Tourist program? Born/delivered on the 4th of July apparently, also the same brake light code as Braukuche, not sure what that's all about.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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I just buy the new hinges from Aircooled. Replace all of them.
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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owokie
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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| I just buy the new hinges from Aircooled. Replace all of them. |
Airhead? Nobody is making new lowlight hinges afaik. Do tell. |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Yet another "my new project" thread, '59. |
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| owokie wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
| I just buy the new hinges from Aircooled. Replace all of them. |
Airhead? Nobody is making new lowlight hinges afaik. Do tell. |
I misspoke, good used not new. But pricey!
They do sell new for later years. Anyone know what the difference is?
https://airheadparts.com/vw-part/door-hinge-141-831-412-u/
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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