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russelltatedotcom Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2020 Posts: 160 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:35 am Post subject: What size resistor ( reducing 12v wiper speed) |
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This question has probably been answered many times before, I just can’t find it?
What size resistor should I use if I have a 6v wiper motor ( with a 12v armature) to reduce the wiper speed to a 2nd slower speed. I have one at the moment which has no markings but the speed does not seem significantly slower?
I did a test: Over 30 seconds
Normal speed was 23 revolutions
With resistor was 17 revolutions
Not significantly slower?
Any advice appreciated!
Cheers
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5606 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:54 am Post subject: Re: What size resistor ( reducing 12v wiper speed) |
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The voltage of the armature IS the voltage of the motor. The fields are magnets. The way VW did it was place the brushes at less than 180° apart for a slower speed. At 180° the motor is turning as fast as it can. Here is an adjustable DC voltage reducer.
https://www.amazon.com/RED-WOLF-Regulator-Accessor...2&th=1
The way VW did the slower speed by moving the brush
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russelltatedotcom Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: What size resistor ( reducing 12v wiper speed) |
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Thanks runamoc, I was actually after info on the resistor that could drop the motor speed, what size folks are using. The 12v supply and 12v armature are working great for full speed it's just trying to reduce the speed for the slow wiper setting i'm having problems working out |
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runamoc Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: What size resistor ( reducing 12v wiper speed) |
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info on the resistor that could drop the motor speed |
The link I attached, in my post, is a power 'reducer' giving 6 volts (1/2 speed) and 9 volts (3/4 speed). Also you will need a two position switch for different speeds to work, even with a resistor. When you use a resistor for voltage reduction the resistor does that but also increases the current that will go thru the wiper motor windings. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
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russelltatedotcom Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: What size resistor ( reducing 12v wiper speed) |
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Thanks for that Runamoc , very helpful |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24772 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: What size resistor ( reducing 12v wiper speed) |
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Problem with dropping voltage below the armature standard voltage, is that you too easily can burn out the motor by doing so especially when the motor is under stress like snow and ice.
Better to get a PWM module that does not affect voltage, instead it turns off and on the grounding of it multiple times a second to give the slower speeds. Plus it gives one just about infinite adjustment of the wipers, so better than just two speeds.
Can not find the exact module we have on Ebay anymore, but anyone can do a search there for "DC PWM module 0-60 volt".
This one is as close what we have:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162836712937?hash=item25e...BMsq_Nhalj
One needs to run a ground wire from the inside of the wiper motor to the PWM module for it to work, and disable the stock grounding of the motor. Good idea to add in a manual switch to ground the motor just in case the PWM ever failed out on the road. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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