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AWS1946 Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2022 Posts: 34 Location: NM
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:39 pm Post subject: Brake proportioning valve pic added |
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I was given a valve that is purple and marked "Speedway" it has an inlet and outlet with two mounting holes and a large lever with detents that regulate the flow through it. I tested it by blowing through it.
Anyone have experience with this valve, is it worth using?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6571/A5goLT.jpg[img]
Last edited by AWS1946 on Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:36 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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DesertSasquatchXploration Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2021 Posts: 565
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve |
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Just plumb everything as factory don't let these guys talk you into anything different. If you don't have a base line how do you Know what's really needed? Bruce Meyers didn't have extra aftermarket BS when finishing the first Baja race?? Do you need it to cruise around the desert with your dog and check out a old shack/mine site heck no.... |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve |
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Major hot button topic here! If nothing else will rally the troops to take sides and fight then bring this subject up! Lots and lots of previous threads on this. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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AWS1946 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve |
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I've read all the pros and cons of a proportioning valve. I'm only asking if this is a decent valve if I decid to use it. I think it is old and I can find no references to it. |
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Q-Dog Samba Member
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Wulfthang Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve |
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oprn wrote: |
Major hot button topic here! If nothing else will rally the troops to take sides and fight then bring this subject up! Lots and lots of previous threads on this. |
Whooee..That's a fact! I gave up on trying to sort that mess out and went with a dual master cylinder brake set up. |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve |
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Wulfthang wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Major hot button topic here! If nothing else will rally the troops to take sides and fight then bring this subject up! Lots and lots of previous threads on this. |
Whooee..That's a fact! I gave up on trying to sort that mess out and went with a dual master cylinder brake set up. |
That I believe is a wise choice! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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BFB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve |
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Wulfthang wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
Major hot button topic here! If nothing else will rally the troops to take sides and fight then bring this subject up! Lots and lots of previous threads on this. |
Whooee..That's a fact! I gave up on trying to sort that mess out and went with a dual master cylinder brake set up. |
Whaaaa?? Brake topics never turn into a shit show, we can always discuss the subject with complete acceptance and consideration of the other guy’s perspective and value each other’s opinions with respect and admiration of each person’s experience & knowledge.
Btw, that thing says “speedway” right on it, so yeh it might have come from speedway motors? Ive seen those before and think they are the same thing as the knob type, just probably faster adjusting since it has preset positions in the lever. Circle track si pretty popular here and if I remember right i think those guy will dial a single caliper in & out to make the car cut harder into the corners ? _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
"You are the Engineer and the Mechanic.
Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
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Dan_Lockwood Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2023 Posts: 191 Location: Clare MI
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve pic added |
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Apparently Speedway Motors no longer makes the lever style proportioning valves. But Wilwood still does and Speedway sells them.
From what I've found prior to this thread about proportioning valves is this, NONE of them reduce the onset surge of pressure by more than 57%... Period.
As pictured by the original poster, the valve would be in FULL bias at 90 degrees. When this valve lever is mounted horizontal, there's no reduction in onset line pressure to whatever caliper(s) you're trying to bias. There's 6 clicks from full to 57% and these are designed for circle track mainly, but other types could apply. The driver can just reach down and pull up on the lever until he gets the correct bias needed. No dialing a knob or reading anything, just pull up and count the clicks.
I doubt this is something that one would use on a buggy, off or on the road.
I'm going to attempt to run a proportioning valve to my front discs on my sand rail in hopes of slowing the brake dive on the sand in turns. I may have to eventually just totally block the front line in some manner, but I'll try the valve first.
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AWS1946 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve pic added |
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Just from playing with this valve I believe that it goes from full open when 90.defrees one way and closed when 90.degrees the other way. |
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DesertSasquatchXploration Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve pic added |
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A front mounted gas tank would be the smartest move. Even if its smaller then the factory unit would help restore the correct weight bias.
Only someone insane would spend money on aftermarket junk trying to correct a problem they created.
They I mean the previous owner of your buggy. |
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Brake proportioning valve pic added |
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I put my battery up front too. Another thing to consider if your front brakes come on too strong is a taller front tire and shorter rears. My sand rail at the moment is too rear brake biased. I have 28" tall front tires and 25 " tall rears. I need to switch that around. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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