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Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:45 pm

I’ve got a 63 with some pretty nice original patina and I was wondering what you all recommend to protect it. Thanks!

Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:50 am

Wax the paint. You can wax the rust, but it will continue to do so

Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:04 am

the options are - wax: such as ankor wax or collinite 845 to waterproof car but will only slow rust down. boiled linseed oil: is cheap and will protect paint and soak into rust but needs repeated application and is sticky and problematic to remove if car is being resprayed in future. penetrol/owatrol oil: is an oil based clear coat that can be brushed on and claims to soak into rust and prevent it getting worse but is glossy. clearcoat/lacquer: such as por15 matte clear, car would need to be sprayed ideally and the matte finish looks nice but some products can yellow or flake after time....some people use clr to remove the worst of the rust staining before applying their choice of protection. if you do a search on samba several topics come up, often the bus/van folk.
ultimately it depends on the climate where you live, use of the car etc I have opted for owatrol oil and collinite wax over that as I live in 'moist' scotland.

Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:29 am

https://www.chemicalguys.com/jetseal-matte-sealant-and-paint-protectant/jetseal-matte-sealant.html

Rust is rust, and will continue to progress if not converted or removed.

I’d stay away from any oil, unless you want to get lowballed at 50% your asking price from the next person that wants to paint the car.

Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:15 am

Use clr or any other oxidation remover to get rid of the rust stains. If you want to keep the dull finish find some anchor wax and use that afterwords.

Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:27 am

What worked for me is 0000 steel wool on the rust, wash the car, dry it and I used this stuff called TR3.

http://www.bluemagicusa.com/12a-6-tr-3-resin-glaze/

Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:24 pm

I've seen several "Patina Cars" at shows that have been clear coated. Doesn't look bad at all. Some are a gloss clear and some are a matt clear.

Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:50 pm

Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:47 pm

Cusser wrote: Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

Priorities..... protect what you can while you build the war chest for real body work, cause you know it's coming.
Of course, once you get under the og primer, priorities might need to change!

Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:01 pm

my59 wrote: Cusser wrote: Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

Priorities..... protect what you can while you build the war chest for real body work, cause you know it's coming.
Of course, once you get under the og primer, priorities might need to change!

I believe what the original PO wants to do is keep the car looking as you see it in the photo. I really don't think he wants to "remove" the patina but rather "preserve" it.

I have seen several cars that look like his VW that have been clear coated. I believe that is what he is asking about....maybe I'm wrong.

Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:21 pm

Have you looked at the Eastwood Patina Preserver? Think I will use it when I get to that point.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:23 am

the eastwood preserver has to be regularly renewed as it states it lasts 'up to one year'

Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:02 pm

Just wax it.
The beauty of patina is it shows the effects of time on the cars appearance. Guess what? The car is only going to get older. The patina is just going to mature. Trying to "freeze" it in time is sort of missing the point, but to each their own. If you keep it waxed and keep it parked indoors, it's going to mature at a very, very slow rate anyway.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:15 pm

Cusser wrote: Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

mos6502 I think that was what cusser was meaning too - about patina being a process occurring over time and not 'frozen' as you say.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:20 pm

Cusser wrote: Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

In the old days we would get the car painted. Now it's cool.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:31 pm

I don't know if it is allowable for me to post a video about an old "non-VW" pick up truck but this is about "Clear Coating Patina" and not about the pick up truck.

If I'm out of line then moderator please delete this post.

Clear Coating Patina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DamwozJ854o

Another video about clear coating patina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxrpu5g89h8

Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:53 pm

splitjunkie wrote: Cusser wrote: Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

In the old days we would get the car painted. Now it's cool.
I personally don't think it's "cool" as much as it is about preserving history. Call it "provenance", if you would. Now "faux-tina"......that's another story. In my case, I bought the car from the proverbial "little old lady". She was 85 years old at the time and drove the car for about 40 years. Some of the top coat had burned off, exposing o.g. gray primer. I buffed it out and annually apply a good wax.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1812992.jpg

Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:07 pm

Cusser wrote: Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

Same thing I am.

Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:12 pm

iowegian wrote: splitjunkie wrote: Cusser wrote: Protect patina ??? What am I missing here?

In the old days we would get the car painted. Now it's cool.
I personally don't think it's "cool" as much as it is about preserving history. Call it "provenance", if you would. Now "faux-tina"......that's another story. In my case, I bought the car from the proverbial "little old lady". She was 85 years old at the time and drove the car for about 40 years. Some of the top coat had burned off, exposing o.g. gray primer. I buffed it out and annually apply a good wax.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1812992.jpg

I meant my comment tongue and cheek for the most part. I like some patina cars. Yours looks nice and I would do the same as you. The thing about patina that is rust is that it will only continue to get worse over time so while I like a lot of the patina cars I see I don't think I would leave the rust there to continuously eat my car away.

Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:55 am

remove the rust, else some original german body panels will become destroyed. Rust is bad, rust is bad, rust is bad.

Bug On my trusty rusty Bug