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Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:06 pm

I'm doing a 12 volt conversion on my ghia. The 12 volt turn signal flasher I bought from KGPR has the following numbers, 49a, 49 and 31.

The original ghia diagram relay has the numbers, 15, K and 54

I'm not sure what wires go where, any insights??

Thank you!!

Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:02 am

#31 connects to ground
#49a connects to the black/green/white wire (common from turn signal switch)
#49 connects to wire #15 (hot with key on)

Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:16 pm

The flasher that worked for me on my 12V conversion had 3 connections
+ - 12V (connected to black/grn/white form fuse)
L - load/switch (connected to black/grn/white to switch + blue to pilot light)
P - pilot light --> I left unconnected

So really needs just a 2 pin flasher.

Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:39 am

Quote: really needs just a 2 pin flasher

Here is a circuit for that....the lower part of the schematic is for an emergency flasher

Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:14 am

Thank you guys, I was able to get this portion of my wiring done and now moving on to more wiring lol

Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:40 pm

runamoc wrote: #31 connects to ground
#49a connects to the black/green/white wire (common from turn signal switch)
#49 connects to wire #15 (hot with key on)

K is supposed to wire to the flashing turn signal light on the speedo, where does K get plugged into the relay?

thanks all

Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:36 am

Mrfun2fly wrote: runamoc wrote: #31 connects to ground
#49a connects to the black/green/white wire (common from turn signal switch)
#49 connects to wire #15 (hot with key on)

K is supposed to wire to the flashing turn signal light on the speedo, where does K get plugged into the relay?

thanks all

connect that wire to #49a on the flasher. See the schematic. The 'arrow' light in the dash is 'after' the flasher. The +12v that is on one side of the 'arrow' light will get its ground to 'glow' from the turn signal light bulbs when the flasher 'opens' during its cycling.

Thu May 23, 2019 6:47 pm

Finally got back to this part of the build, installed the steering wheel and therefore the turn signal switch.

But...for some reason when I try to use the turn signal, the dash indicator light goes on solid. I have the new 3 prong relay Flasher and I'm probably not following instructions but can you all look at my fancy diagram of how I have everything wired and tell me where I'm smoking crack?? Do I need that ground from the relay to the body? Maybe my relay is just bad, how do I test it?

Many thanks!!

Thu May 23, 2019 9:17 pm

runamoc wrote: Quote: really needs just a 2 pin flasher

Here is a circuit for that....the lower part of the schematic is for an emergency flasher

Am I understanding this correctly? I don't need to ground the relay?

Fri May 24, 2019 4:55 am

Mrfun2fly wrote: runamoc wrote: Quote: really needs just a 2 pin flasher

Here is a circuit for that....the lower part of the schematic is for an emergency flasher

Am I understanding this correctly? I don't need to ground the relay?

No, you don't. It doesn't 'hurt' anything but it's not needed. Your turn signal light staying on means you don't have enough of a load to 'fire' the relay. Could be you have LEDs for some or all of the turn signal bulbs. Also, the opposite is true, too much of a load on a flasher causes them to flash faster. Not sure if you are using an 'Electronic Flasher' or not but it should be even if you're not using LEDs. No matter the load on an electronic flasher the flash rate remains the same.

Fri May 24, 2019 5:07 am

runamoc wrote: Mrfun2fly wrote: runamoc wrote: Quote: really needs just a 2 pin flasher

Here is a circuit for that....the lower part of the schematic is for an emergency flasher

Am I understanding this correctly? I don't need to ground the relay?

No, you don't. It doesn't 'hurt' anything but it's not needed. Your turn signal light staying on means you don't have enough of a load to 'fire' the relay. Could be you have LEDs for some or all of the turn signal bulbs. Also, the opposite is true, too much of a load on a flasher causes them to flash faster. Not sure if you are using an 'Electronic Flasher' or not but it should be even if you're not using LEDs. No matter the load on an electronic flasher the flash rate remains the same.

I'm just using regular non LED 12v bulbs and a generic 3 prong flasher from KGPR.

Could the flasher be broken? Isn't there a way to test the flasher?

Thank you

Lee

Fri May 24, 2019 6:54 am

Quote: Isn't there a way to test the flasher?

Put 12 volts, like from a non-automatic battery charger or other power supply, on the tab 49 put some light bulbs as a load on tab 49a. The bulbs should flash. Using two 'turn signal' bulbs in parallel as a load will better 'duplicate' the circuit for testing. Don't forget to ground the bulbs. 8)

Fri May 24, 2019 6:43 pm

runamoc wrote: Quote: Isn't there a way to test the flasher?

Put 12 volts, like from a non-automatic battery charger or other power supply, on the tab 49 put some light bulbs as a load on tab 49a. The bulbs should flash. Using two 'turn signal' bulbs in parallel as a load will better 'duplicate' the circuit for testing. Don't forget to ground the bulbs. 8)

All I can say is, the guy who wired my car during the restoration process is a complete moron and idiot!! :oops: Only took me 3 hours to figure it out, the wire that is to come off the ignition to the fuse box to power the turn signal was completely missing. Don't know how I missed it but I did and have to eat some serious crow now and I apologize for causing anyone to spin their wheels on my stupidy :(

However if there is any grace and mercy out there please answer me this if you can. I turn the left signal on and they blink normal, but when I turn the right signal on, the indicator light and right front signal blinks super fast and the right rear doesn't come on at all.

Any ideas what's up with this fast blinking indicator/ fast blinking front signal and not right rear signal?

Sorry again for all the caused trouble and thank you for any and all your input.

Cheers,

Lee

Fri May 24, 2019 7:42 pm

Fast blink is lack of resistance in the circuit.
Figure out why the rear light isn’t working and it should sort itself out.

Sat May 25, 2019 12:04 pm

jeffrey8164 wrote: Fast blink is lack of resistance in the circuit.
Figure out why the rear light isn’t working and it should sort itself out.

Bingo! Right rear bulb wasn't connecting to the bulb holder well enough to get good ground. All smiles now:)

Thanks again!

Sat May 25, 2019 12:06 pm

Just want to say thank you to everyone for the coaching, with your help all my blinkers work now and I've learned a bunch. This chapter is being closed hopefully not to reopen 😅

Cheers,

Lee

Sat May 25, 2019 9:00 pm

Woohoo!

Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:08 pm

runamoc wrote: #31 connects to ground
#49a connects to the black/green/white wire (common from turn signal switch)
#49 connects to wire #15 (hot with key on)

Thanks.