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Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:15 pm

I have a 74 super 1600. I have two spare distributors but I don't no which one is for my 1600.
The first one is JFU4 0231170034 043 905 205
The second one is JFU4 0231170036 043 905 205A
The car came from California and it has a 34pic4 carb, and i live in Mn.
if one of these is the right one what are the part number for the cap,rotor, condesor and points. The motor is stock

Thanks

Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:17 pm

What's the number on the carburetor base flange?

Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:56 pm

The first one definitely if it's in good working order. That's the one I'm running with the same carb. Runs really, really nice.

I'm not sure what the second one is. I'd have to look it up. I assume it would be similar to the first one by part number though.

Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:49 pm

I got the carb from Tim and it works fantastic.
I will get the base number on the carb tomorrow.

Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:49 pm

I got the carb from Tim and it works fantastic.
I will get the base number on the carb tomorrow.

Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:39 pm

Those are both 1973-1974 stock distributors and SVDA's. The 170 034 is originally installed on manual trans Beetles in the 49 states- ironically not California. The 170 036 was originally installed on the auto trans Beetle in 49 states.

The distributors are identical. They use the same advance weights and springs, same vacuum canister and the same tune up parts which were also used on the"009". If your carburetor flange number matches an SVDA you'd be golden with either one and should keep the second as a spare.

Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:35 pm

The base number on the carb is B3 309 vw430 -1

Thanks

Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:49 pm

430-1 is the automatic trans carburetor for California so you have a factory match for the 043 905 205 A and SVDA- lucky you. I wouldn't worry too much about the auto trans thing it's probably a difference in carburetor jetting.

Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:10 pm

Eric Lundin wrote: The base number on the carb is B3 309 vw430 -1

Thanks

Hmmm, a bit of confusion here....

According to this thread:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=488876&view=previous

The 430-1 34 PICT-4 was for 1974 California autsoticks; however this thread also states that it was matched to the 043 905 205A (170 036) SVDA distributor the OP lists above as one of his spares. But this thread also lists this same distributor as the one that came on the 74 autostick in the other 49 states as well, only with a 34 PICT-3 carb. Long story short according to this thread is run it with either of your distributors since they are both identical and you'll be fine.

BUT:

The Bosch tuneup chart lists the 74 California autostick as coming with the 043 905 205 D DVDA distributor, and the 74 manual coming with the 043 905 205 C distributor which it does not specifiy SVDA or DVDA:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/Bosch_Tune_Up_Parts/Bosch_Tune_Up_Parts.pdf

In addition, this chart lists the 043 905 205 SVDA as the distributor for 1974 manuals in the other 49 states and the 043 905 205A SVDA as the distributor for the 1974 autosticks in the other 49 states. :?

Bottom line IMO- that carb will work just fine with either of the distributors you have, just be sure to set timing to 7.5 BTDC with the vacuum advance hose connected.

Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:13 pm

tasb wrote: 430-1 is the automatic trans for California so you have a factory match for the 043 905 205 A and SVDA- lucky you. I wouldn't worry too much about the auto trans thing it's probably a difference in carburetor jetting.

Here is the pertinent info from that thread I linked above:

VW 427-1 34PICT-3 043905205 BUG 1600 1974 127.5 70z 55 USA Manual
VW 428-1 34PICT-3 043905205A BUG 1600 1974 127.5 75z 55 USA Autostick
VW 429-1 34PICT-4 043905205C BUG 1600 1974 127.5 60z 55 California manual
VW 430-1 34PICT-4 043905205A BUG 1600 1974 127.5 60z 55 California autostick

So yes the air correction jet is different according to this info, but again it also specifies the 34 PICT-3 as having been used on the autosticks in the other 49 states.
Maybe I'm making too big a deal out of it :D

Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:48 pm

Thank you all for all of the info.
Its nice everybody is so knowledgeable :D

THANK YOU ALL

Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:51 pm

Thank you all for all of the info.
Its nice everybody is so knowledgeable :D

THANK YOU ALL

Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:58 pm

Both distributors are excellent. The 034 is the highly sought after one.

Just be mindful that both distributors should be disassembled, cleaned and re lubricated. After 45 years, the original grease is either gone, or is now hard and useless. Couple that with the distributor being dirty and things don't work correctly like the pivot plate, points cam rotation, etc. It's common for the pivot plates to be frozen, or partly frozen which then puts lots of pressure on the vacuum advance canister diaphragms. In many cases, it can cause them to fail prematurely too.

Having restored tons of them, I've never seen one not taken apart since new that didn't desperately need to be cleaned and re lubricated.