TheSamba.com :: View topic - Any alternatives to Bosch Distributor Grease?

Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:47 am

Tried searching 5700002005, and 5700002025(m114) for a tube of the high temp Bosch Grease for some distributor r&r, and with most things Bosch these days, it is NLA. Any google searches have come back empty, and any past links here have also come back no good. Does anyone know of a good substitute? It's my understanding it's simply a higher temp grease to withstand the 180+ degree engine operating temps.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:59 am

Mallory distributor grease?

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:22 am

The Mallory 26015 is NLA as well.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:35 am

Wouldn't any high quality full synthetic grease work? I remember my uncle showing me the Amzoil selling trick of a dab of their grease on a 100W light bulb, it didn't melt, move or anything.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:45 am

Superlube standard grease works very well.

1. Just like all distributor grease it has no metals in it at all (no molybdenum or lead or aluminum complex). It is 100% synthetic

2. Its lubricant is teflon based.

3. Its operating range is -45 to 450F drop point. But...its consistency is similar to room temperature Vaseline so it has very low tackiness even down below freezing.

4. It has a very high dielectric strength....which is important for a distributor lube...so it does not conduct electricity easily.

I have used in distributors very successfully for years.

You can buy 3 oz tubes at Harbor Freight and NAPA
http://www.super-lube.com/synthetic-multipurpose-grease-ezp-49.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/85-gram-super-lube-grease-cartridge-93744.html

http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/NCB21030

You can also get most of the same properties from the Superlube dielectric grease but it is a silicone grease...which is fine but its about 40% thicker than the standard grease. Its great for spark plug boots and connectors but too thick and stiff for distributor parts in my experience.

The dielectric properties of the multi purpose grease are almost as high as the silicone grease.

http://www.super-lube.com/silicone-dielectric-grease-ezp-52.html

You can also buy this product from Motion Industries, Grainger and other places. In comes in tubes, tubs and all of the usual ways. Ray

Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:17 am

How about:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/5700002025.htm?pn=5-700-002-025-M114

Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:29 am

Before when I ran a dist and didn't have my tube of Bosch grease, I used dielectric grease. All parts stores have it.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:42 am

63single wrote: How about:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/5700002025.htm?pn=5-700-002-025-M114

When you place it in the cart, it notes item is out of stock.

I've gotten as far as placing the order, only to have a vendor contact me the next day canceling the order for lack of inventory.

I was under the assumption that dielectric grease was to be used as a spark plug sealant/insulator. The plugs get pretty hot, but any of the over the counter dielectric grease I've used from someone like Permatex dried up when using it on the plug boots of my Taylor wires.

I'll do some looking into on the Superlube.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:12 pm

Sorry about the bad link. I didn't try to add to the cart.

But I did go here and ordered a tube because I checked what I had left (this tube has lasted 20 years) and figured I should get one.

https://europortparts.com/catalog/product/view/id/275420

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:01 pm

jfats808 wrote: I used dielectric grease. All parts stores have it.
X2. Dielectric grease is in fact a silicon grease, well-suited for metal-to-plastic interfaces.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:17 pm

The suoerlube grease is also perfect to metal and plastic. Its also listed as FDA food contact approved.

The problem people eont get with dielctric greases....aka bulb grease and spark plug boot grease.....is that its designed as a DIELCTRIC grease....and really as a lubricant.

It has enough lubricating properties to get parts to slide together. They generally are not designed with high drop points or anti-drying longevity. The basic silicone dielectric greases are silicone oil with micropowdered silicone with just enough liquid to make them able to be applied.

Its not a problem on spark plug boots when a silicone dielectric grease dries out....because it leaves a barrier film that impedes arcing between the two parts.

You can GET AWAY with using dedicated dielectric grease on distributor points simply because they are lightly loaded. However....where it usually fails is in cold temps because it gets stiff and gets pushed out of the way.

The dedicated distributor greases like Bosch have just enough additives to make them flow....but also have enough silicone to have a fairly high degree of dielctric capacity.

The Superlube works similar to Bosch grease because it has similar cold and hot,weather flow and has enough teflon and silicone to be an excellent dielectric.

Distributor grease does not have to be delectric but it is a good feature. Ray

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:54 pm

63single wrote: Sorry about the bad link. I didn't try to add to the cart.

But I did go here and ordered a tube because I checked what I had left (this tube has lasted 20 years) and figured I should get one.

https://europortparts.com/catalog/product/view/id/275420

:)

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:55 pm

I use synthetic greesee. duralube is what Ive been using.it never hardens like many dyno&syn greesseess do, not stickey, super slick&thin.I made the mistake of using a super slickery expensiove greessee on my wiper assy when i rebuilt it. the only issue is....it gets hard&stickey when cold so....slow wipers in the winter, witch is also real hard on the wiper motor. my over thinking/under thinking got the best of me on that one.but it was a good learning lesson.so I think real good now before decinding on what greessee to use.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:20 pm

I have this as my alternative supply. i'm on my third full tube of Bosch grease in 10-12 years.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:27 pm

The bosch grease really is a different animal. It is the thickest grease I've seen. Just a little dab on the backside of the rubbing block.

I was put on the side of the road a couple times with points wearing closed way to quick with run of the mill greases.

It's almost hairy, it's so thick.

Some one should offer some small dabs for a buck to samba members.

Or go crank fire for a few hun (maybe) and forgetaboutit.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:02 pm

You mean this?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1909857

That should last the average hobbiest awhile.

No, its not my ad.

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:24 pm

When I get ignition points, they come with a small capsule of grease for the cam/rubbing block...

Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:45 pm

I am glad to see superlube is still around, I....thought it was gone.
I'll order a tub pronto!

Silicon grease/oil was one of the last items to be added to my garage spice rack but it DOES have many purposes. Great to lube rubber that dos not naturally live in a lubricant.
VW examples would be, stretching the one piece boots, installing spring plate bushings, fitting fuel injector 0-rings and any o-ring that doesn't live in oil, this stuff is the KEY. KEY!!

Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:09 pm

modok wrote: I am glad to see superlube is still around, I....thought it was gone.
I'll order a tub pronto!

Silicon grease/oil was one of the last items to be added to my garage spice rack but it DOES have many purposes. Great to lube rubber that dos not naturally live in a lubricant.
VW examples would be, stretching the one piece boots, installing spring plate bushings, fitting fuel injector 0-rings and any o-ring that doesn't live in oil, this stuff is the KEY. KEY!!

Its odd who is and isnt a superlube dealer. For a,while back in the late 90s....everyone was getting on board.

I know dozens of machine manufacturers across several industries who changed to it in place of lithium greases and now stock and sell it as required for warranty.

It gets rid of the need to do expensive strip and cleans every 2-3 years to clean off and replace hardened and ineffective grease.....so they have plenty of OEM type business keeping them alive.

NAPA is the best all around public source of superlube outside of ordering online or Grainger. They generally keep the small tubes on the shelf and have 1 lb tubs and 10 oz cartridges in their warehouse.

Motion industries. ...keeps their fully synthetic gear oils......which are superb for steering gearboxes. Ray

Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:44 am

Thanks for the leads 63 single, and tasb. I'm working on getting some, but I'm not declaring victory till its in my hand. A Google search came up with all the forum inquires, not sure why it didn't come up with the classified ad.