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Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:13 pm

I really did search for this...

What size hose clamps do you use on the gates barricade 5/16 ID fuel hose?

I have some from van-cafe, but would like to use the ear style clamp on most connections.

Thanks for the help.

Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:25 pm

You need to size the clamp to the OD, go online and look up Oetiker, the German company that makes the ear type clamps. They come in number sizes based on hose OD range. you will need something around a size 17 to 20 I guess based upon my clamps I just looked at.

John

Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:34 pm

vanagonjon wrote: You need to size the clamp to the OD, go online and look up Oetiker, the German company that makes the ear type clamps. They come in number sizes based on hose OD range. you will need something around a size 17 to 20 I guess based upon my clamps I just looked at.

John

That's my problem I don't know the OD of the gates hose. It's gates 27348 FI hose. I saw one mention of the OD as being 13mm, but I can't find it again. I didn't find anything on the gates website.

I will keep looking.

Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:11 pm

If you are doing a Subaru conversion anyway, the factory stainless Subaru fuel clamps are the nicest Ive ever come across, and they are on your donor(or any 1990 and newer Subaru at the junkyard).I use them on all fuel lines on the Vanagons.

Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:50 pm

The clamps I used are:
Oetiker 16700013 Stainless Steel Hose Clamp, One Ear, 7 mm Band Width, 9/16" Hose ID, 12 mm - 14.5 mm Hose OD Range (Pack of 100).
They're available on amazon for $27, so $0.27 a piece.
They do seem quite tight though, and I may be moving up to the next size up for some applications. I have used them on most of the engine and fuel connections with no problem though, they tighten down really nicely.

I am using Goodyear Hose, so i'm not sure if the OD is any different but it should be pretty much the same.

Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:08 pm

these are what i've been using for the last couple of years, i've gone through 300 or so, all the vans i've put fuel lines have had these fuel line clips these are reuseable unlike the oetiker clamps, and a good bit cheaper.
i had them on lucy for over a year before i put them on other peoples vans, no leaks on any of them.

if you pop the hood on a modern VW you will find these all over the place, and they are LOT more expensive if you buy them from VW ;)

Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:15 pm

rubbachicken wrote: these are what i've been using for the last couple of years, i've gone through 300 or so, all the vans i've put fuel lines have had these fuel line clips these are reuseable unlike the oetiker clamps, and a good bit cheaper.
i had them on lucy for over a year before i put them on other peoples vans, no leaks on any of them.

if you pop the hood on a modern VW you will find these all over the place, and they are LOT more expensive if you buy them from VW ;)

Do you know if this fits the gates 27348 hose? I might give these a try.

Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:29 pm

sorry i have no idea, i don't have any gates fuel line, what's the OD of the gates fuel line, i can go and measure what i have, if that would help.

physast wrote:

Do you know if this fits the gates 27348 hose? I might give these a try.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:13 am

Intellectually I understand Spring Clamps and the principle behind their function.
Be it the flat spring steel clamp or the wire spring clamp......

The constant squeezing action through expansion and contraction cycles makes perfect sense........

A proven method of installing hoses for DECADES!
In my over half century of wrenching...... I've seen very few actually fail, a few squeeze ears broken off and an old wire type simply broken ........

But.....
There is a mechanical inner force in me that doesn't quite trust them, that force wants to rotate a screw to make something tighter!
Not unlike knowing that Ice Cream isn't good for you and that frozen yogurt crap isn't as bad...... But ice cream tastes SO GOOD!!!

Rubbachicken's link.........

Dave

Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:13 am

Hopefully not a significant drift...

Is there a specific tool out there for this type of spring clamps? I always use pliers of one sort or another...
Yes, they are all over my GTI.

Oddly, the emissions pipes also have Oetiker style clamps on them.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:52 am

Are those rated for fuel injection pressures?
I can't see how they possibly can be and certainly won't be using them on my bus anytime soon. They just seem so weak.
Heck, I put a new carb on our Dodge truck recently and It used these, and I wasn't overly confident with their tension to hold on a fuel line that operated at a few PSI, let alone the high pressures of the vanagon system.

To each their own I guess.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:38 am

Come to think of it, I think these are only used on the GTI for cooling system hoses.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:54 am

I think I might stick with the ABA ones from vancafe for now. I have not heard of them failing yet.

Since I am using the 5/16 gas line I just want to make sure they get snug and stay put.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:08 am

ABA 21013 Stainless 13mm bolt style clamps are what you want.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:26 am

borninabus wrote: ABA 21013 Stainless 13mm bolt style clamps are what you want.

Like this?

http://www.amazon.com/AAS-Fuel-Injection-Clamps-FI...K4VRGQWJ5A

I read somewhere that these are good for low pressure hose. But these say FI in the description.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:47 am

go look under the hood on a new VW, these are all over the fuel lines, if you have the right size for the hose, they clamp very well, remember over tightening damages fuel line anyway, like i posted i put them on my van first, before using them on anyone elses, they are fine.

Phishman068 wrote: Are those rated for fuel injection pressures?
I can't see how they possibly can be and certainly won't be using them on my bus anytime soon. They just seem so weak.
Heck, I put a new carb on our Dodge truck recently and It used these, and I wasn't overly confident with their tension to hold on a fuel line that operated at a few PSI, let alone the high pressures of the vanagon system.

To each their own I guess.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:22 am

nmerrill wrote: Is there a specific tool out there for this type of spring clamps?

http://www.amazon.com/OTC-4525-Cable-Type-Flexible...amp+pliers

Couldn't work on my VW's without my Craftsman version... it's gotten lots of use.

According to the VW parts catalog, these are the factory clamps on the fuel lines, which are spring-type: http://www.vwbusshop.de/epages/GuenzlClassicParts....iewProduct .

My van has reusable metal clamps that I've no clue what their proper name/type is. Next time I have the lid off, I'll try to remember to snap a pic of them.

Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:19 pm

physast wrote: borninabus wrote: ABA 21013 Stainless 13mm bolt style clamps are what you want.

Like this?

http://www.amazon.com/AAS-Fuel-Injection-Clamps-FI...K4VRGQWJ5A

yep :)
no special tools required

Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:20 pm

those pliers are WAY to big for fuel line clips though.
i use just a regular pair of pliers, for the fuel line clips, those are for coolant hose clips

Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:44 am

You people really know how to spend money. Pinch clamps are available
in any size you want. That's the key. Beverage companies seem to need
a lot of these. They are typically stainless steel and are about .03 to .05 each. YES that is five cent.
Bars and restaurants use these all the time. I have about 4000 of these in maybe 6 different sizes.
THey work great, look great, and are cheap.