gooser |
Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:25 am |
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when the city sprays its lovely solution on a street how long does it generally take for the harmful stuff to go away to the point that it's safe to drive on? |
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djkeev |
Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:30 am |
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Depends.
How much has it rained?
How much was applied?
Is the road properly crowned for drainage?
Salt never "goes away", it is a mineral, we mine it out of the earth or process it out of sea water. It simply gets relocated and diluted.
Salt can stay on a highway for weeks or months without rain fall. It becomes dry and powdery and actually forms salt dust clouds as it is driven over.
Salt is corrosive and kills living vegetation and marine life, some States have limited its use or banned it in sensitive areas.
Modern deicing compounds are even more corrosive and heinous to the roadways, bridges and vehicles, ask your city what they use.
Dave |
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gt1953 |
Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:12 am |
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Salt, Magnesium Chloride, chemical deicers suck. Stays around for a while and works down to certain tempurature
In our region I hope they switch back to using cinders. I would rather have a cracked windshield then a rusted frame. |
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Derek Cobb |
Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:22 am |
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It'll stay on the road until you get a good soaking rain. |
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Randall |
Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:42 am |
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Man, am I glad I live here 8) so I don't have to deal with salt. |
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slowvolks1969 |
Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:28 am |
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In the spring I wait until a couple good rains. If it's not completely washed away it will dry on the road & will fly up as dust when you drive on it. Kind of like driving down a dirt road. That salt dust can get everywhere & is no good. :( |
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EasternNotch |
Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:45 pm |
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slowvolks1969 wrote: In the spring I wait until a couple good rains. If it's not completely washed away it will dry on the road & will fly up as dust when you drive on it. Kind of like driving down a dirt road. That salt dust can get everywhere & is no good. :(
X2 -I put my car away in early November and don't bring it back out until we have a few heavy rains to wash that nasty stuff away. This is why we own a couple Japanese cars :wink: |
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bubblehead |
Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:29 am |
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VW season officially ended for me Sat night 10:30 est when the salt truck went by my house :cry: I also wait till Spring when we've had some heavy rain and the street sweepers have been out. My 10 yo Toyota has more rust than my 60 yo bus. |
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udidwht |
Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:51 am |
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djkeev wrote: Depends.
How much has it rained?
How much was applied?
Is the road properly crowned for drainage?
Salt never "goes away", it is a mineral, we mine it out of the earth or process it out of sea water. It simply gets relocated and diluted.
Salt can stay on a highway for weeks or months without rain fall. It becomes dry and powdery and actually forms salt dust clouds as it is driven over.
Salt is corrosive and kills living vegetation and marine life, some States have limited its use or banned it in sensitive areas.
Modern deicing compounds are even more corrosive and heinous to the roadways, bridges and vehicles, ask your city what they use.
Dave
Must explain why so many fish are living in the salted ocean :roll: Let me guess...tree hugger? |
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djkeev |
Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:38 pm |
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udidwht wrote: djkeev wrote: Depends.
How much has it rained?
How much was applied?
Is the road properly crowned for drainage?
Salt never "goes away", it is a mineral, we mine it out of the earth or process it out of sea water. It simply gets relocated and diluted.
Salt can stay on a highway for weeks or months without rain fall. It becomes dry and powdery and actually forms salt dust clouds as it is driven over.
Salt is corrosive and kills living vegetation and marine life, some States have limited its use or banned it in sensitive areas.
Modern deicing compounds are even more corrosive and heinous to the roadways, bridges and vehicles, ask your city what they use.
Dave
Must explain why so many fish are living in the salted ocean :roll: Let me guess...tree hugger?
Well....... There are FRESH WATER fish, trout, catfish and such......
And there are SALT WATER fish, tuna, shark etc.
They each die when put into the others habitat.
Dave |
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udidwht |
Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:19 pm |
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djkeev wrote: udidwht wrote: djkeev wrote: Depends.
How much has it rained?
How much was applied?
Is the road properly crowned for drainage?
Salt never "goes away", it is a mineral, we mine it out of the earth or process it out of sea water. It simply gets relocated and diluted.
Salt can stay on a highway for weeks or months without rain fall. It becomes dry and powdery and actually forms salt dust clouds as it is driven over.
Salt is corrosive and kills living vegetation and marine life, some States have limited its use or banned it in sensitive areas.
Modern deicing compounds are even more corrosive and heinous to the roadways, bridges and vehicles, ask your city what they use.
Dave
Must explain why so many fish are living in the salted ocean :roll: Let me guess...tree hugger?
Well....... There are FRESH WATER fish, trout, catfish and such......
And there are SALT WATER fish, tuna, shark etc.
They each die when put into the others habitat.
Dave
Suicide by fish. |
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Jacks |
Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:09 pm |
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djkeev wrote: udidwht wrote: djkeev wrote: Depends.
How much has it rained?
How much was applied?
Is the road properly crowned for drainage?
Salt never "goes away", it is a mineral, we mine it out of the earth or process it out of sea water. It simply gets relocated and diluted.
Salt can stay on a highway for weeks or months without rain fall. It becomes dry and powdery and actually forms salt dust clouds as it is driven over.
Salt is corrosive and kills living vegetation and marine life, some States have limited its use or banned it in sensitive areas.
Modern deicing compounds are even more corrosive and heinous to the roadways, bridges and vehicles, ask your city what they use.
Dave
Must explain why so many fish are living in the salted ocean :roll: Let me guess...tree hugger?
Well....... There are FRESH WATER fish, trout, catfish and such......
And there are SALT WATER fish, tuna, shark etc.
They each die when put into the others habitat.
Dave Consider the salmon :) |
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Tram |
Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:39 am |
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djkeev wrote: udidwht wrote: djkeev wrote: Depends.
How much has it rained?
How much was applied?
Is the road properly crowned for drainage?
Salt never "goes away", it is a mineral, we mine it out of the earth or process it out of sea water. It simply gets relocated and diluted.
Salt can stay on a highway for weeks or months without rain fall. It becomes dry and powdery and actually forms salt dust clouds as it is driven over.
Salt is corrosive and kills living vegetation and marine life, some States have limited its use or banned it in sensitive areas.
Modern deicing compounds are even more corrosive and heinous to the roadways, bridges and vehicles, ask your city what they use.
Dave
Must explain why so many fish are living in the salted ocean :roll: Let me guess...tree hugger?
Well....... There are FRESH WATER fish, trout, catfish and such......
And there are SALT WATER fish, tuna, shark etc.
They each die when put into the others habitat.
Dave
Don't confuse the mall cop with facts. :) |
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udidwht |
Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:19 pm |
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Tram wrote: djkeev wrote: udidwht wrote: djkeev wrote: Depends.
How much has it rained?
How much was applied?
Is the road properly crowned for drainage?
Salt never "goes away", it is a mineral, we mine it out of the earth or process it out of sea water. It simply gets relocated and diluted.
Salt can stay on a highway for weeks or months without rain fall. It becomes dry and powdery and actually forms salt dust clouds as it is driven over.
Salt is corrosive and kills living vegetation and marine life, some States have limited its use or banned it in sensitive areas.
Modern deicing compounds are even more corrosive and heinous to the roadways, bridges and vehicles, ask your city what they use.
Dave
Must explain why so many fish are living in the salted ocean :roll: Let me guess...tree hugger?
Well....... There are FRESH WATER fish, trout, catfish and such......
And there are SALT WATER fish, tuna, shark etc.
They each die when put into the others habitat.
Dave
Don't confuse the mall cop with facts. :)
Well trout, catfish are fresh water. Tuna, (shark certain species) are mainly salt.
Salt doesn't kill marine life. :roll:
As for Salmon the salt isn't what kills them. Or should I say lack of.
You'll have to try better than that Tram :roll:
Damn treehugger. |
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punkabillyvw |
Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:34 pm |
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the area in il i recently moved from was using a natural concoction of fermented beet juice and ground corn starch it didnt freeze over becuse of the alcohol but made for super slushy roads almost as bad and the horrid smell but cleaned off car easily enough |
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Aussiebug |
Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:22 pm |
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Move to Australia.
No salt used anywhere on our roads - ever! |
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Glenn73 |
Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:17 pm |
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Salt ain't all that bad. You like your chips crispy and crunchy? How about your car? Not just your VW. Without it roads get horrific.
But seriously it will linger until rain has washed it away.
My bug got all crunchy due to driving it last winter. What started as solid heater channels is now swiss cheese. |
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Rag00oll |
Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:07 pm |
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A good rain.
Salt will take a solid car and try and make it crunchy and full of holes if you don't take the proper measures to ward off the salt.
Fluid Film in all the cracks amd crevices. Krowm Undercoating. Wash it off immediately after driving, even a good road salt neutralizer. Give it a good wax and polish the chrome often. She'll take good care of you if you take good care of her. |
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drscope |
Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:19 pm |
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Rag00oll wrote:
Salt will take a solid car and try and make it crunchy and full of holes if you don't take the proper measures to ward off the salt.
The proper measures around here are to put the car away as soon as the salt hits the streets and not take them out again until after the spring rains. Winter sucks because of this but the cars last a lot longer! |
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79SuperVert |
Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:41 pm |
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I've had my '62 since 2006 and take it out every winter weekend as long as there's been a good rain to wash away the salt. No rust yet. |
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