| Joel |
Wed May 11, 2011 5:29 pm |
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| Saab V4 8) |
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| Paul Windisch |
Wed May 11, 2011 5:36 pm |
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Definitely not a Pinto 2.3, which would be an inline 4.
EDIT: It looks like a V-4 Ford engine, which was also used by Saab.
EDIT#2: Joel beat me to it! |
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| rlutterb |
Wed May 11, 2011 5:44 pm |
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| How the hell do you run heat in a bug when you convert it to a watercooled engine? |
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| Paul Windisch |
Wed May 11, 2011 5:51 pm |
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| T-off the coolant lines somewhere and install a heater core with a blower motor. |
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| bruces |
Wed May 11, 2011 6:06 pm |
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rlutterb wrote: How the hell do you run heat in a bug when you convert it to a watercooled engine?
woodstove ! |
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| mondshine |
Wed May 11, 2011 6:06 pm |
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Big Al-
Seeing that Saab (Ford) V4 was a treat; Brought back memories of my '73 Saab 96. Too bad you couldn't keep the freewheel clutch!
Mondshine |
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| Joel |
Wed May 11, 2011 7:36 pm |
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rlutterb wrote: How the hell do you run heat in a bug when you convert it to a watercooled engine?
Same way all watercooled cars do, a heater core and fan.
You can duct them into the stock heater channels so they work like stock.
One of the joys of a conversion is a heater that works well. |
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| Vinnems |
Wed May 11, 2011 10:14 pm |
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| Nice to see this topic up again. Was wondering, have you guys ever see this done with a Bus? I'd think they'd benefit more from the HP gain and mileage considering their size. |
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| Joel |
Thu May 12, 2011 12:17 am |
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Bus conversions are far more common than beetle.
They fit a type4 engine bay with no cutting and the radiator sits between the chassis rails so no body work and completely invisible from outside.
It's cheaper to get a EJ subi conversion in a bus than rebuild a type4.
Most Vanagons are fitted with them as Wasserboxers are just too expensive to keep going and the cooling system is already there. |
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| Gerrelt |
Thu May 12, 2011 10:16 am |
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This is the perfect thread for spamming my "Other conversions" gallery link: See what's possible
@BigAlVB: Your car is the 5th most viewed!
Is it allright I add a link to your Samba profile under your picture? |
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| Gary |
Thu May 12, 2011 11:15 am |
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Gerrelt wrote: This is the perfect thread for spamming my "Other conversions" gallery link: See what's possible
@BigAlVB: Your car is the 5th most viewed!
Is it allright I add a link to your Samba profile under your picture?
This one is probably the best and cleanest.
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| Keeby Swaggz |
Thu May 12, 2011 11:37 am |
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just my two cents... I used to own an RX7 and it was a BLAST to drive... the Rex and my Bug are my two favorite cars of all time... Bug first, though... which is why I plan to put a rotary in it!!! I know the pros and cons, not concerned... but to the OP, a rotary is also a fairly easy conversion...
oh, and to the guy that said "throwin' a Jap engine in blah blah"... as far as the rotary goes, it's GERMAN!!! woohoo!!!
I do love the Subi conversions, though... so I'm plannin' to put one in my wife's Bus... |
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| JasonBaker |
Thu May 12, 2011 11:57 am |
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When valve maintenance for an ACVW is every 2000-3000 miles.
The Conversion starts looking good to me.
But, damn I like to nostalgic ambiance with the old air cooled engine. |
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| Keeby Swaggz |
Thu May 12, 2011 11:58 am |
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| agreed, on both counts... |
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| gore666 |
Thu May 12, 2011 12:02 pm |
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| iv been thinking about doing a conversion but im gunna find a molested bug for the swap still trying to decide subi or rotory i had a rx7 in high school man that was a blast but it didnt like cold weather. i had no clue how to work on it though |
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| JasonBaker |
Thu May 12, 2011 12:24 pm |
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| I have no idea about rotary engines either. All I know is they run off witchcraft and triangles... :lol: :lol: |
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| Joel |
Thu May 12, 2011 2:22 pm |
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Having had both a rota bug and the subi bug both have their pros and cons.
Although my rota bug was never legally on the road for the 7 years I owned it the previous owner built it in 1988 so it was around for a while.
The only pros I would give the wankel is they are light, easy to fit (only minor apron trimming needed for the fan hub and bugger all electrical) and have lots of brute HP.
The reasons I dont like them is they make a V8 look economical, torque.....what torque, transmission is easy to break, they are cranky lumpy running bloody things and they ruin a bugs handling by lifting the center of gravity at the back.
Not enough to worry most people but I'm just very fussy how my cars handle.
The subi just has a lot more going for it, they're bulletproof and reliable engines, very low maintenance, low cost and easy to find, smooooooth and economical and being a boxer they maintain the cars balance and the twin cam motors excluding EJ25 fit with no body work, just a small notch in the apron seal channel
With the right muffler system you can even get them to sound like a VW.
The main downside is a pretty complex electrical system, but there are advantages to that, they are completely self diagnostic even to the home mechanic without a scan tool |
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| gore666 |
Fri May 13, 2011 6:11 pm |
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hey joel
how hard was the electrical thats the only part that scares me |
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| Keeby Swaggz |
Fri May 13, 2011 6:18 pm |
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| the hardest part is strippin' the wiring out of the harness that's unused... so that you end up with just the engine controls to the sensors and injectors and pcm, etc... then the matter of routing and mounting in a tasteful and clean manner... the existing vehicle wiring primarily gives power to the new harness, then splicin' in for warning lights and gauges, ignition, etc... it's not easy, by any means, but a careful step-by-step with sound electrical understanding will get you through it... |
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| gore666 |
Fri May 13, 2011 6:28 pm |
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Keeby Swaggz wrote: the hardest part is strippin' the wiring out of the harness that's unused... so that you end up with just the engine controls to the sensors and injectors and pcm, etc... then the matter of routing and mounting in a tasteful and clean manner... the existing vehicle wiring primarily gives power to the new harness, then splicin' in for warning lights and gauges, ignition, etc... it's not easy, by any means, but a careful step-by-step with sound electrical understanding will get you through it...
i was just reading on this site
http://bb.bbboy.net/vwengineconversions-viewthread?forum=3&thread=135
it has alot of info but i was reading one guys post says theres an after market ecu that cuts the wires down to only a dozen but i dont see a price or where to get it lol i dunno im not one of the guys that has to have his vw as it rolled out the door in the 60s. cheaper hp better fuel mileage and more driving less tinkering sounds like a win win to me |
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