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Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:24 pm

I bought a cheapo eBay one and it was way too noisy...Couldn't stand it and shipped it back.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Ended up buying Walbro unit and its very quiet and the quality appears quite nice!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:24 am

adamjjohn203 wrote: I bought a cheapo eBay one and it was way too noisy...Couldn't stand it and shipped it back.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Ended up buying Walbro unit and its very quiet and the quality appears quite nice!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Wow under 50 bucks and free shipping.
Is the age of 200 fuel pumps just over?

Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:21 pm

Are you guys rigging any inline Fuel pressure gauge? something in the bay perhaps? I am thinking about a backup pump, great post!

Thanks!

Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:20 pm

Nothing new to this thread, just keeping it current.

I tried the Ford fuel pump from NAPA, and it is really noisy. I was able to get it bearable in the van only with the included insulation wrap plus another layer of foam insulation. Still loud when outside the van.

I decided to get a Bosch off Ebay:
NEW BOSCH FUEL PUMP 69414 FOR BMW, JAGUAR, PEUGEOT AND VOLKSWAGEN 1975-1993

$90 delivered priority mail, no tax (That's what the Ford pump cost me). Came in a NAPA/Bosch box.

But what really surprised me was it's made in Germany. I was led to think that all the new Boschs were Czech (which would have been fine with me).

Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:04 pm

LemonCove wrote:
I tried the Ford fuel pump from NAPA, and it is really noisy. I was able to get it bearable in the van only with the included insulation wrap plus another layer of foam insulation. Still loud when outside the van.

Interesting. I've been running the NAPA/Ford pump for 2 years now and haven't found mine noisy at all.

I do like the look of the new one you found though. If I needed a pump I'd be considering that one.

Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:30 pm

I found this at rockauto
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1400505&cc=1430162
not sure how good it is, but for under $30, would make a good spare

Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:54 pm

Tobias Duncan wrote: adamjjohn203 wrote: I bought a cheapo eBay one and it was way too noisy...Couldn't stand it and shipped it back.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Ended up buying Walbro unit and its very quiet and the quality appears quite nice!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Wow under 50 bucks and free shipping.
Is the age of 200 fuel pumps just over?

I went on ebay and ordered the same pump for $48.95 then I get an email from the seller saying they are backordered. So I go to click on the auction and they are still selling them but they raised the price to $88.95! So I am thinking they gave me a line of BS saying they were backordered but they still have them at a higher price! What a scam!!! Negative feedback coming from me.

Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:48 pm

I got close to 2000 miles on the P37 Fuel Pump (with microsquirt); it's noisy, however, it's a 81 vanagon; the wind noise drowns the fuel pump noise.

its $30... can't go wrong.

Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:40 pm

woggs1 wrote: Tobias Duncan wrote: adamjjohn203 wrote: I bought a cheapo eBay one and it was way too noisy...Couldn't stand it and shipped it back.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Ended up buying Walbro unit and its very quiet and the quality appears quite nice!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Wow under 50 bucks and free shipping.
Is the age of 200 fuel pumps just over?

I went on ebay and ordered the same pump for $48.95 then I get an email from the seller saying they are backordered. So I go to click on the auction and they are still selling them but they raised the price to $88.95! So I am thinking they gave me a line of BS saying they were backordered but they still have them at a higher price! What a scam!!! Negative feedback coming from me.

I must have ordered mine from these folks at the right time, got the 48 price shipped and it is tucked
away in the Westy for when needed!

Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:21 pm

Another update.

I was unhappy with the NAPA/Ford pump (a Carter made in USA). Way too noisy.

I’d ordered a Bosch 69414 off EBay for $90 delivered (Made in Germany no less!), but hadn’t put it on yet.

TOP: Bosch - 69414
BOTTOM: NAPA/CARTER - 69100

Finally the “NAPA/Ford 69100” pump got to be too much. Driving around a campground last week scoping sites we drove all the other campers nuts with the really loud whine . . . . seriously . . . kind of embarrassing. This - even though I’d gone to lengths to insulate and isolate the pump.

Saturday I put on the Bosch unit with new rubber mounting dealies (Van Cafe). Much quieter . . . . not silent like my old Bosch original, but not really noticable.

I took a before and after video to document the noise. In the “before” you can hear the pump whine. This even with all the sound insulation and isolating the pump from the chassis (no hard connection between pump and chassis).

https://picasaweb.google.com/13VelosdeRemi/FuelPumpReplacement2#5966254995253551858

In the “After” the engine noise drowns out the pump so you can’t hear the pump. This is using the stock mounts and no insulation.

https://picasaweb.google.com/13VelosdeRemi/FuelPumpReplacement2#5966261976438661730

Lastly, NAPA now sells lists the Bosch BSH 69100 for about $85 rather than the Carter which they sold me as the 69100 (Carter P74028). So maybe folks will be happier with the Bosch unit (if it’s quieter) rather than the Carter. Both have the smaller diameter intake.

Good luck, Jed

Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:58 pm

I'm getting ready to tackle the fuel pump replacement myself.
I just got the $50 ebay one to-thanks for the link!
Couple of questions though

1) how do you determine + and - terminals? is it OK to hook it up real quick w/out fuel running through it?

2) what are folks doing in regards to the spade connectors on the original wiring?

Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:10 pm

The new pump terminals should be marked +/-. Turn key on and check for +12v with a multimeter (a valuable tool if you don't have one, it'll come in handy all the time and reasonably priced. Found a nice one at Sears for my son recently).

Both of the ring terminal fuel pumps I got (the NAPA/Ford and the Bosch) both came with crimp on ring connectors included. Cut off spade, strip, crimp on ring terminal.

Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:31 am

LemonCove wrote:
Both of the ring terminal fuel pumps I got (the NAPA/Ford and the Bosch) both came with crimp on ring connectors included. Cut off spade, strip, crimp on ring terminal.

And before you crimp those on, make sure you have the correct one on the correct wire. They are different-sized ring terminals. Ask me how I know.

RonC

Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:33 am

thanks for the relpies snowcove and snowsyncro.
the pump i have has no discernable markings on it although
one terminal is larger then the other and that may be
what I assume is positive?

Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:51 am

If you want an excellent fuel pump, get a Pierburg.
$400

Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:35 am

NC Dude wrote: thanks for the relpies snowcove and snowsyncro.
the pump i have has no discernable markings on it although
one terminal is larger then the other and that may be
what I assume is positive?

You meant snow cove and lemonsyncro... :wink:

I don't recall which was which, but they only go on the pump one way, so just check the rings on the pump before you crimp to the wires.

RonC

Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:37 am

insyncro wrote: If you want an excellent fuel pump, get a Pierburg.
$400

I was looking at those Pierburg pumps last night on autopartsway.ca. Had me a bit confused though, because they show two different models with slightly different price points. The difference was not clear to me, and I have not followed up yet. Good to know they are an excellent pump, I was not sure I was willing to pay the extra dollars for unknown benefit.

RonC

Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:06 pm

Ok guys, if you are running these alternative pumps, don't run PRE PUMP FILTERS. They will make the pump run hot, noisy, and premature failure is imminent. I was running the $30 fuel pump from rockauto.

The pump works great, as long as you don't choke it.
http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11381

Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:15 pm

adamjjohn203 wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
just ordered this one for $59.95 w/ free shipping
fingers crossed...

Napa quoted me $143 wholesale for N69100 :?

Mon May 05, 2014 4:09 pm

borninabus wrote: adamjjohn203 wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/220558299564?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
just ordered this one for $59.95 w/ free shipping
fingers crossed...

Napa quoted me $143 wholesale for N69100 :?

Now up to $99.