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Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:20 am

Why is it that everyone selling a car nowadays says original miles ....what is an original mile ....is there an aftermarket mile ...or a used mile dont people realize how stupid it sounds to say that ......why cant they say the car has 68,000 miles ..............sorry im on a rant this morning

Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:59 am

Maybe there are Un-original miles ??
Or "the speedo was @ 74,000 when it broke, so we replaced w/ a speedo that has 76,000 on it, 6 years later" ...... :roll:

Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:20 am

When one comes across low mileage on an older vehicle, it gives the impression that the vehicle is "hardly" used and likely in good condition. That's what I would think.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:26 am

What about miles on consignment, do they count?
or borrowed miles behind a tow truck? do you have to pay them back? :?

Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:57 am

Original miles would mean to me un-spun miles, or actual.

This would mean to me honest, or actual miles, not miles that have been dreamed up and altered by some speedo guru, and wound around to read something erronious.

Original is allegid actual, which may be or not ficticious.

This is where Car Fax came from, and how they make their money from suspicious people not trusting the seller's of rides--and they simply monopolized on rediculas original mileage statements.

It takes an original crook to catch a crook.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:20 am

I am always amused by the local ads which state so called freeway miles which here in the SF Bay area equates to horriible stop/start traffic conditions........... the worst on clutches and brakes, city streets are often faster.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:54 am

I don't think I have ever seen a car listed with "Freeway Miles"

Your right---I'd stay away from the creeping on throttle / off throttle expressway driven ride.

A Highway Miles advertised ride I'd be more inclined to buy with 100k on it than a expressway driven vehicle with half as many miles.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:24 am

i have always hated that term! what is an UNoriginal mile?
i also hate "doctor owned". i've got nothing against MD's,
but i've worked on doctor owned cars, and the are, for the most
part, the most un-cared for piles of crapola out there.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:25 am

Guess I thought orig miles meant that the odo had not turned over and was on the first go round. On a car with a 5 digit odo that means under 100K but my '89 vanagon has a 6 digit odo so that means as long as I keep her und a million I'll always have "original" miles! As for adds with highway or freeway miles, thats a bunch of bunk anyway. Miles is miles, that's why the odometer doesnt track 2 kinds of miles.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:38 am

<<Guess I thought orig miles meant that the odo had not turned over and was on the first go round.>>

Prior to the ODO measuring 100k plus this is the correct origin of the teminology orginal.

<<As for adds with highway or freeway miles, thats a bunch of bunk anyway. Miles is miles,>>

So you'd buy a used Checker cab with nothing more than city, hammer on, hammer off miles.

Not a wise choice.

I'd be much more inclined a car or truck with 2-300k on the ODO as long as it was cruzin miles--not city.

Why do you think that highway trucks can accumulate a million plus miles prior to a engine rebuild, have on;y one clutch swap and a city truck is lucky to 50--

Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:44 am

I know for a fact my NB TDI had mostly "freeway miles." It mostly just went up and down the 15 which has little real traffic most of the time. I knew the original first owner as I worked with him. So I knew it was all real actual original miles.

But, the above is the exception rather than the norm. Like many used cars it broke soon after I got it. Not the original owners fault, per se, but the fault of the shit heads at the VW Stealer that did not know how to repair the rare TDI. Dip Shizzes.

So it goes and goes again my NB does at 55 mpg after the mods I did while we fixed it. Mixed blessings, as always....

Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:33 pm

I view the term "original miles" to mean the actual mileage on a part that came with the car on day one. Say the engine has 190,000 original miles verses saying the the engine has 10,000 miles on a rebuild. The term when interpreted this way should not be applied to the car overall unless it has never had any parts replaced.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:41 pm

In aircraft we simplfy the notation, as TSN and TSMOH, this is time since new and time since major overhaul. However, origional miles is unplagerized miles in academic circles. It is a stupid use of the language, just like the airlines term, "we will be landing momentarily." Personally, I would prefer if they land long enough for me to get off and claim my baggage. Not do a touch and go.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:29 pm

My '63 Beetle shows 66K on the odometer, how many actual/original/unoriginal miles are there?

66K?

166K?

266K?

I don't know, who does? It is those "documented" miles I'm wandering about? Who does this mysterious "documentation" anyway? What are there credentials?

As far as "highway" miles go, yes there is a huge difference. I drive/ride in a 2005 Ford F350 chassis ambulance everyday with 297K miles on it. :shock:

Yes, it gets alot of "highway" time.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:54 pm

To me the word "orginal" is about the best way of describing, and a universal, understood statement that whatever your looking to buy hasn't gone around the clock at least once.

Yea--it's maybe a stupid way of putting it, but it has seemd to be the code of actual mileage for eons---since the beginning of time.

Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:23 pm

vwjedi wrote: My '63 Beetle shows 66K on the odometer, how many actual/original/unoriginal miles are there?

66K?

166K?

266K?

I don't know, who does? It is those "documented" miles I'm wandering about? Who does this mysterious "documentation" anyway? What are there credentials?

As far as "highway" miles go, yes there is a huge difference. I drive/ride in a 2005 Ford F350 chassis ambulance everyday with 297K miles on it. :shock:

Yes, it gets alot of "highway" time.

He he, I bet you could get a dergree from that famous school that Sally struthers talks about on tv when she doesn't have a lambchop shoved in her mouth :D While your at it may as well get your degree in locksmith, tv/vcr repair, or you high school diploma! give to the cause, Sally's gotta eat!

Jedi, I'm catching up I gots about 235k on the company Ford "Exploder" No matter how hard I try I can't get it to explode though, that frigin' thing keeps on tickin :(

Oh yea, heres a bummer story, a client of my wife has a '73 thing that he bought off the OG owners that owned and airline. They kept it here as they had a nice pad on the beach near me they visited now an again. He bought it off them a few years ago, car only has 27k miles on it. He did not bother to check the mileage when he changed the title over, and just marked the "exempt" box so now there is no "documentation" to the claim that it actually only has 27k original miles on it :? Its still a cool car and has a cool history, the wife of the og owner loved the car, when Nader shut the "Thing" down she snatched up some stuff that she thought would wear out and become obosolete, so he even has some cool NOS stuff with it. but alas he won't come off what I think is too high a price, and he's a rich guy that will only get richer so he doesn't really care if the car sits and rots in his barn :(

Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:51 am

so when are we going to see people advertising "virtually original miles"
seems like that is the next logical step in consumer deception!!!

Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:49 am

Hear Hear, Let me clear this up. An original mile is one that you have driven without the engine sputtering or stalling out.
An original mile is one that you have driven without watching the coolant light come on for no reason.
An original mile is one that you have driven when the heat actually works.
An original mile is one that you have driven without the upper control arm bushings announcing your arrival.

Heres to many many many original miles 8)

Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:23 pm

Original miles are what Ferris tried to reverse from Cameron's Dad's Ferrari in the garage crash scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off (The 1961 Ferrari GT250 was actually a modified MG sports car. The producers received several :x angry letters from car enthusiasts who believed the car shown was a *real* Ferrari and that it was actually wrecked in the film.)

Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:05 pm

I like when people throw a "good tires" in there..