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Bobnotch
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| Like gray as in Zinc coat like the nos muffler. As I remember. Most times than not that stuff is long gone on the manifolds. |
I thought the muffler was more of a gray green color.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| Like gray as in Zinc coat like the nos muffler. As I remember. Most times than not that stuff is long gone on the manifolds. |
I thought the muffler was more of a gray green color. |
What ever this color is then in the eye of the beholder.
Same as side draft maifold.
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squareweave
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| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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I've had a classified add up for a while now with little response and I was directed here. Would anybody happen to have a real nice/mint rear bumper for my 64 TS squareback? The bumper on it isn't horrible but I would like to find a really nice one for the car. It's a one owner original paint etc car and I've decided to try to keep original finish brightwork on the car rather than rechroming the bumpers. I only need the blade not guards etc.
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ibjack
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:56 am Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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It's vey unlikely that you will find a 50 year old original bumper in great condition. I say just rechrome one, your car looks like it deserves it. 
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pedro sainz
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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I've had a classified add up for a while now with little response and I was directed here. Would anybody happen to have a real nice/mint rear bumper for my 64 TS squareback? The bumper on it isn't horrible but I would like to find a really nice one for the car. It's a one owner original paint etc car and I've decided to try to keep original finish brightwork on the car rather than rechroming the bumpers. I only need the blade not guards etc.
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leave the blade alone dont replace it
even if you find a Good NOS with shelf wear and scratches or Good used one would NOT have the SAME SHINE because by different weather or climate
by another state you will see the difference
like Jack mention Re-Chrome ALL and will wear SAME and EVEN again
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squareweave
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| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:15 am Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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| pedro sainz wrote: |
| squareweave wrote: |
I've had a classified add up for a while now with little response and I was directed here. Would anybody happen to have a real nice/mint rear bumper for my 64 TS squareback? The bumper on it isn't horrible but I would like to find a really nice one for the car. It's a one owner original paint etc car and I've decided to try to keep original finish brightwork on the car rather than rechroming the bumpers. I only need the blade not guards etc.
Any help or leads would be appreciated!!! |
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leave the blade alone dont replace it
even if you find a Good NOS with shelf wear and scratches or Good used one would NOT have the SAME SHINE because by different weather or climate
by another state you will see the difference
like Jack mention Re-Chrome ALL and will wear SAME and EVEN again |
Good point, the bumper isn't that bad, just has a few little dings in the middle.
I have NOS guards already for it. I just like the look of nice strait bumpers |
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.65vw
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| Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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Hi All,
My post is here because I am looking for opinions from a stock mindset point of view. Hope this is ok.
I have been looking at vintage style/looking tires for my 1965 Notchback and was hoping some of you like minded stock/vintage look Notchback owners who know a lot more than I do could offer opinions on a good aftermarket stock looking whitewall tire.
I see many online but I am not quite sure which is the closest looking to the original type.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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Just make sure they are thin white walls. I hate it when people put the wide white walls on that look 50's  not 60's as the car is. God I hate that. Looks dumb. But thats just me 
My 64 is here stuck in customs. We will have a gathering soon 
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Erik G
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| Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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Hi All,
My post is here because I am looking for opinions from a stock mindset point of view. Hope this is ok.
I have been looking at vintage style/looking tires for my 1965 Notchback and was hoping some of you like minded stock/vintage look Notchback owners who know a lot more than I do could offer opinions on a good aftermarket stock looking whitewall tire.
I see many online but I am not quite sure which is the closest looking to the original type.
Thanks in advance for any opinions. |
I've brought this up a lot actually, i'll post some shortly. At work, so it may take a while
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Erik G
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here is what's up on the tires. probably more than you want to know or even care
I want vintage. Our cars came with bias ply tires, blackwall or thin white stripe. They are not the best for actual driving, but look the best, hands down. Size is 600x15 and several places have these
next up, a vintage looking radial. Couple problems with that - they aren't made in the proper size with a thin whitewall. 165R-15 (or 165SR or 165H, etc) is the correct size.
there are problems with this as well. Most of them are made by coker. The Pirelli above, are they actually made by Pirelli? the firestone 165's are not. Nor the Michelin xzx. Coker buys worn out tire molds, sends them to a 3rd world country, and has the tires made there. I personally had a set of expensive coker reproductions on my Porsche, they were no where near the quality of the original Michelin.
Modern looking radial 165's are available. "American Classics" available from Coker and others. These are a modern tire. They look modern. I personally do not like them, but they are fine for most people. There is a BF Goodrich 165, still looks modern, which is a shame - they used to make a very nice vintage look 165 white wall
lastly, both Diamond Back and Coker are making a new hybrid tire. It is a radial but looks like a bias ply. They will not be cheap
pictures!
American Classic
BF Goodwrich
New DiamondBack Bias look radial - absolutely will make a 700x15 radial with any size WW
Coker bias look radial (600x15 not confirmed in thin white wall yet)
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Erik G
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:57 am Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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The Pirellis are made by Pirelli. The Michelins I bought were manufactured in a Michelin plant in Serbia, which is not exactly a third world country. The quality is comparable the XZXs I've bought 15-20 years ago.
I'd like to see some documentation that Coker is actually manufacturing Michelins and not just distributing them. Michelin has an international brand reputation to uphold. Allowing a third party to produce inferior reproduction tires under the Michelin name doesn't make sense. Likewise Pirelli.
http://www.michelinclassic.com/fr/Gamme-Collection
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ok, I would absolutely agree with you, but I've done the research after having problems with firestones from him
from his website
"To overcome the challenge of producing brand new tire designs, Corky determined early on that he was his own best source of vintage treads, by purchasing discontinued molds from old factories. He literally searched the world, including South America, the Philippines and Australia to acquire molds from various factories. When the molds cannot be sourced, Corky has new molds built from original drawings and blueprints. Either way, the molds are refurbished to today’s standard and tested thoroughly.
He brokered deals with major tire producers that gave Coker Tire the worldwide licensing agreements and exclusive distributorships to big-name vintage brands. These brands included B.F. Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin and U.S. Royal thus increasing the variety of products available from Coker Tire. To expand his customer base in an industry with no recognized method of distribution, Corky initially went to his customers by way of car shows and swap meets. He and an employee would load a small van with tires and set up at car shows across the country. Larger trucks took the place of the van and show travel became the mainstay of Coker's commitment to its customers. Today, Coker Tire attends more than 40 shows a year utilizing a fleet of tractor-trailers."
https://www.cokertire.com/history
don't be fooled thinking you are getting genuine Michelin or Firestone when you are buying from him or his distributors
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:06 am Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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I can't remember where I read this but I thought the Michelins were made by Michelin.
It's just that they do limited runs. So once/year (or whatever) Coker pays them to do a big run. Limited production plus Coker as the source / "manufacturer" = more expensive tire.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:12 am Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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I can't remember where I read this but I thought the Michelins were made by Michelin.
It's just that they do limited runs. So once/year (or whatever) Coker pays them to do a big run. Limited production plus Coker as the source / "manufacturer" = more expensive tire. |
I can definitely see that, specifically the tires listed on the link above - for sure he makes the firestone and US Royal, uniroyal, etc.
Those are great tires, back in the day i had 145 and 165 Michelin's and they were awesome. I've had the Pirelli too, great tires. Wish they did the thin white
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:54 am Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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I can't remember where I read this but I thought the Michelins were made by Michelin.
It's just that they do limited runs. So once/year (or whatever) Coker pays them to do a big run. Limited production plus Coker as the source / "manufacturer" = more expensive tire. |
I can definitely see that, specifically the tires listed on the link above - for sure he makes the firestone and US Royal, uniroyal, etc.
Those are great tires, back in the day i had 145 and 165 Michelin's and they were awesome. I've had the Pirelli too, great tires. Wish they did the thin white |
The thin red XZX was nice too.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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the notchback was the first type 3 right?
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.65vw
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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Thanks Everyone!
Especially for the pictures Erik G.
For sure I want to go with a thin white wall, like is on the tires that came with the notchback I have now that are pretty old.
I am going to look at the recommendations and try to decide.
For sure I want authentic looking so I am leaning toward bias tires.
I'll post an update when I figure this out.
Thanks again for the ideas. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: The 1500 Club |
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The Pirellis are made by Pirelli. The Michelins I bought were manufactured in a Michelin plant in Serbia, which is not exactly a third world country. The quality is comparable the XZXs I've bought 15-20 years ago.
I'd like to see some documentation that Coker is actually manufacturing Michelins and not just distributing them. Michelin has an international brand reputation to uphold. Allowing a third party to produce inferior reproduction tires under the Michelin name doesn't make sense. Likewise Pirelli.
http://www.michelinclassic.com/fr/Gamme-Collection
https://www.cinturato.net/ |
ok, I would absolutely agree with you, but I've done the research after having problems with firestones from him
from his website
"To overcome the challenge of producing brand new tire designs, Corky determined early on that he was his own best source of vintage treads, by purchasing discontinued molds from old factories. He literally searched the world, including South America, the Philippines and Australia to acquire molds from various factories. When the molds cannot be sourced, Corky has new molds built from original drawings and blueprints. Either way, the molds are refurbished to today’s standard and tested thoroughly.
He brokered deals with major tire producers that gave Coker Tire the worldwide licensing agreements and exclusive distributorships to big-name vintage brands. These brands included B.F. Goodrich, Firestone, Michelin and U.S. Royal thus increasing the variety of products available from Coker Tire. To expand his customer base in an industry with no recognized method of distribution, Corky initially went to his customers by way of car shows and swap meets. He and an employee would load a small van with tires and set up at car shows across the country. Larger trucks took the place of the van and show travel became the mainstay of Coker's commitment to its customers. Today, Coker Tire attends more than 40 shows a year utilizing a fleet of tractor-trailers."
https://www.cokertire.com/history
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I don't see anything there that says Coker has had vintage style Michelin tires manufactured, or any other name brand tire for that matter. Exclusive distribution in the U.S., yes, but that's not the same thing. The two paragraphs above describe two different aspects of Coker's business, manufacturing and distribution.
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25 years riding with bias Ply on my Notch
and is FUN keeps you Awake
20 years with white thin walls till got Sick of that look
and the other 5 years Black Wall
heres the Link
they are upgrade and Strong and Correct Size and Look
hate to see the 165s leave a Big Gap around the Fender of my VWS
but thats ME
just want to share
what i have NOW
http://www.jegs.com/i/Coker-Tire/257/56450/10002/-1?parentProductId=
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