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Dubskii
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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Does anyone have an ass-end pic they can post of a 3" lowered bus with RGB's. Need to see what the camber looks like.
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jacopotex
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:05 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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Hi folks
Today i'm working in my single cab, i'm ready to put the complete swing axle of beetle but i have a problem.
I see that gearbox mounts are different and i don't know what i have to do now.
The beetle mount have 3 studs and the original single cab gearbox have only 2 studs and a completly different geometry.
Please look the photos
Thanks
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Krustybus
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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Just swap the nosecone and selector rod (hockey stick) from the bus trans to the beetle trans. It will bolt right up.
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jacopotex
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| Krustybus wrote: |
| Just swap the nosecone and selector rod (hockey stick) from the bus trans to the beetle trans. It will bolt right up. |
ok thanks i will try this week |
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left_coast*9
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:44 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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I want to fit some OG Fuch 16x6 wheels with a tire about 195 45 or 50R16 under the front of a mildly lowered bus (like a basic flipped spindle ht, 2.5-3") AND a 2 inch narrowed beam. Do I have to go 4" narrowed to get these to fit? I am OK with a slight rub at turning lock with a passenger. I have been thru this thread but didn't see the answer. The rear will be the standard straight axle height. Thanks for the help!
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scottvw
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:45 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| left_coast*9 wrote: |
| I want to fit some OG Fuch 16x6 wheels with a tire about 195 45 or 50R16 under the front of a mildly lowered bus (like a basic flipped spindle ht, 2.5-3") AND a 2 inch narrowed beam. Do I have to go 4" narrowed to get these to fit? I am OK with a slight rub at turning lock with a passenger. I have been thru this thread but didn't see the answer. The rear will be the standard straight axle height. Thanks for the help! |
This bus has a 3.5" narrowed beam with 195/40/16's with a raised steering box.
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flemcadiddlehopper
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:47 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| jacopotex wrote: |
| Krustybus wrote: |
| Just swap the nosecone and selector rod (hockey stick) from the bus trans to the beetle trans. It will bolt right up. |
ok thanks i will try this week |
If you are going to use the axles too (straight axle conversion) there is much more you need to do to get it to bolt right in.
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left_coast*9
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jacopotex
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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You need the setup that matches the tranny you will be using.
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jacopotex
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| cdennisg wrote: |
You need the setup that matches the tranny you will be using. |
sorry but i don't understand what you mean.
it's my first time |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| jacopotex wrote: |
| cdennisg wrote: |
You need the setup that matches the tranny you will be using. |
sorry but i don't understand what you mean.
it's my first time |
If the tranny you are going to use has the later style clutch/TO bearing/collar setup, then that is what style you need to buy.
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mandraks
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| cdennisg wrote: |
| jacopotex wrote: |
| cdennisg wrote: |
You need the setup that matches the tranny you will be using. |
sorry but i don't understand what you mean.
it's my first time |
If the tranny you are going to use has the later style clutch/TO bearing/collar setup, then that is what style you need to buy. |
or to say the same thing another way: buy the same style that is on your beetle transmission today.
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jacopotex
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| mandraks wrote: |
| cdennisg wrote: |
| jacopotex wrote: |
| cdennisg wrote: |
You need the setup that matches the tranny you will be using. |
sorry but i don't understand what you mean.
it's my first time |
If the tranny you are going to use has the later style clutch/TO bearing/collar setup, then that is what style you need to buy. |
or to say the same thing another way: buy the same style that is on your beetle transmission today. |
ok thanks to all i undestand now
really really thanks |
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jacopotex
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:06 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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Hi volks
thanks so much to all, for the help.
So i have other 3 questions for you today.
At the moment i have on the beetle trasmission straight axle and a bay window front beam with brake disc.
So like the photo you can see the SC lowered but still too high, and in the last you can see the rear at the lowered high that i like so much.
So at the moment the rear is supported only by the original beetle dampers, so now the dampers are at the end.
The first question is; the spax damper for lowered bus, they have a different stroke? so can they work at this high?
The second question is: as you can see with the rear lowered the wheels are negative cambered and i love it so much, but the tyre touch the wheel arch.
So i have to put a spacer between the drums and the wheels or hit have to modify the steel sheet?
The third question is; now i have to low the front and i have the adjuster and the new plate for build a new front beam.
I will do a narrow front beam but how i can narrow it if i will use 205/50 R16 tyre?
is the possibility that the tyre tuch the frame during the turning?
The floor is modified it's raised to 14cm
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brettsvw
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jacopotex
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:10 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| brettsvw wrote: |
I have a 4in narrowed bay beam, empi 3.5" dropped spindles and 16"X7" wheels and have no rubbing issues.
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ok thanks and what about the damper? what are you using? |
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jacopotex
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:12 am Post subject: Re: How to lower a Bus and all lowering questions |
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| brettsvw wrote: |
I have a 4in narrowed bay beam, empi 3.5" dropped spindles and 16"X7" wheels and have no rubbing issues.
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When you narrow the beam you have to narrow the torsion bar too? |
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Help Help
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| I'm getting ready to correct the height on the rear of my 67 kombi for the second time. After consulting the tables, 6 splines each way should get me there. Where I can use a hand is any tips for getting the spline count right? I'm OK on the outside but I get lost on the inside. What works? |
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