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VW Addict Samba Salesman
Joined: January 09, 2003 Posts: 3920
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 am Post subject: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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I towed a beetle home yesterday and didn't think to physically rub my hand on the tires (rear passenger side), but when I was looking at them straight on- they were all up, in the air, and seemed to be OK-- so I hooked a tow bar and towed it home.
Was I ever lucky... this is what I found this morning when I was cleaning the wheels and tires... how it's possible that it didn't blow, or more surprising it holds air and doesn't leak it beyond me... I was lucky I didn't blow it going 65mph towing it on the interstate!
Whoa!
What I could see before I towed it... looks OK, right?
Looks are deceiving... look at the tread! holy smokes!
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34003 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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It is possible they looked fine on the lift, but the tread separated during the tow. You might not have heard or felt it. |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:09 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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yep, that is what I was thinking, happened on the tow home.
Either way, luck was involved _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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sb001 wrote: |
maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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VW Addict Samba Salesman
Joined: January 09, 2003 Posts: 3920
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:11 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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KTPhil wrote: |
It is possible they looked fine on the lift, but the tread separated during the tow. You might not have heard or felt it. |
Funny you should mention that!
I recall hauling it home on the interstate and looking in my outside mirror of my truck and noticing something black flew off the back of the car... didn't put two and two together until now! It must have been tire tread! That is some very well-worn tread for it to just come off like that! |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:17 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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That's either a tiny wheel and tire, or somebody has a HUGE hand. |
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VW Addict Samba Salesman
Joined: January 09, 2003 Posts: 3920
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:21 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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iowegian wrote: |
That's either a tiny wheel and tire, or somebody has a HUGE hand. |
- Donald Trump and I have the same size hands. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34003 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:29 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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They were still retreading old tire carcasses back then. Trucks still do, and that's why you see all those rubber tire chunks along the interstates. I don't think any passenger tire company retreads anymore due to liability. |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:44 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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That tire was just old and not a retread. And that is a myth about retreaded tires. Most tire alligators come from improperly maintained tires
and they don't retread passenger car tires because of the cost. _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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sb001 wrote: |
maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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bvolks Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2004 Posts: 845 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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KTPhil wrote: |
They were still retreading old tire carcasses back then. Trucks still do, and that's why you see all those rubber tire chunks along the interstates. I don't think any passenger tire company retreads anymore due to liability. |
There is a place here in the Maritimes that still retreads passenger tires. http://easterntire.ns.ca/ _________________ 1985 Diesel Jetta Coupe (temporarily retired at
756,000 km)
1971 Doublecab project
1995 Golf CL
1974 Beetle
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Jon Schmid Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2012 Posts: 2038 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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You are indeed lucky. At least now, with 5 fresh tires you will know their age. As for trucks, I believe you cannot use recaps on the front tires. Rear tires and trailers are fair game. Either there are more trucks on the road or recaps are being crappily done/poor tire maintenance as almost every day I see "alligators" especially on the freeways, and I don't drive all that far. |
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itskyle Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2013 Posts: 634 Location: Plainfield, IN
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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Jon Schmid wrote: |
You are indeed lucky. At least now, with 5 fresh tires you will know their age. As for trucks, I believe you cannot use recaps on the front tires. Rear tires and trailers are fair game. Either there are more trucks on the road or recaps are being crappily done/poor tire maintenance as almost every day I see "alligators" especially on the freeways, and I don't drive all that far. |
Ok, I'm hijacking the thread a little bit...
Perhaps people aren't as diligent at cleaning up their mess nowadays (tire alligators on the side of the road) as they did back in the day.
Also, just positing this. perhaps the tires were over inflated?
Kyle _________________ --
69 or 72 Autostick Bug current
66 Bug (We both miss it)
74 SuperBeetle Auto Stick (I miss that car)
73 SquareBack, Straight Stick (Wife misses this one.) |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31362 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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We've had about six tires explode on the Arizona interstates, at least half were Michelins under 1 year old for which the tire pressures were checked the same day. One had 3-inches only on each rim side, the metal of the wheel was visible; drove 3 miles on shoulder on the metal rim to lighted place to change tire (rim was still usable).
Last time it happened to me, was similar to the posted photos, did not deflate. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51130 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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Cusser wrote: |
We've had about six tires explode on the Arizona interstates, at least half were Michelins under 1 year old for which the tire pressures were checked the same day. One had 3-inches only on each rim side, the metal of the wheel was visible; drove 3 miles on shoulder on the metal rim to lighted place to change tire (rim was still usable).
Last time it happened to me, was similar to the posted photos, did not deflate. |
Time for a new tire pressure gauge it seems _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76911 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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VW Addict wrote: |
iowegian wrote: |
That's either a tiny wheel and tire, or somebody has a HUGE hand. |
- Donald Trump and I have the same size hands. |
Trump is always over compensating. I'll leave it at that. _________________ Glenn
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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That is one of my pet peeves when I look at vehicle I am interested in purchasing, tires. If they are beyond my personal date code it is an automatic discount of 350 bucks off the asking price.
You are vey lucky. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
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itskyle Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2013 Posts: 634 Location: Plainfield, IN
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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gt1953 wrote: |
That is one of my pet peeves when I look at vehicle I am interested in purchasing, tires. If they are beyond my personal date code it is an automatic discount of 350 bucks off the asking price.
You are vey lucky. |
Worse would be brand new without receipt that are the wrong size.
don't ask me how I know this... _________________ --
69 or 72 Autostick Bug current
66 Bug (We both miss it)
74 SuperBeetle Auto Stick (I miss that car)
73 SquareBack, Straight Stick (Wife misses this one.) |
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Jon Schmid Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2012 Posts: 2038 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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itskyle wrote: |
Jon Schmid wrote: |
You are indeed lucky. At least now, with 5 fresh tires you will know their age. As for trucks, I believe you cannot use recaps on the front tires. Rear tires and trailers are fair game. Either there are more trucks on the road or recaps are being crappily done/poor tire maintenance as almost every day I see "alligators" especially on the freeways, and I don't drive all that far. |
Ok, I'm hijacking the thread a little bit...
Perhaps people aren't as diligent at cleaning up their mess nowadays (tire alligators on the side of the road) as they did back in the day.
Also, just positing this. perhaps the tires were over inflated?
Kyle |
In SoCal apparently it's OK to leave whole sections of cars at the side of the road for days+. Also ladders, BBQ's, you name it. It takes weeks for Caltrans or whoever to clean up crap out here. So tire debris is a low priority job, although apparently so is everything else. At least large roadkill isn't a problem out here. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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I don't know if I missed it but did you get the manufacture date code off that separated tire?
I'm curious as to how old it is? _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4024 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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Can't be that bad, it got you home.
Stacy _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:47 am Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! |
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I laughed.....we hauled home a Super a few months ago - the garage it was in was pretty dark and had to squeeze around to get air into the passenger side tires. Hooked it up and off we went - drove maybe 5 miles and stopped to check the tires since one looked a little low......Pretty much the same as yours....My wife was sweating bullets the remaining 25 miles to the shop....Yeah - recaps don't seem to hold up real well after sitting flat after 20 years _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
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