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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

I towed a beetle home yesterday and didn't think to physically rub my hand on the tires (rear passenger side), but when I was looking at them straight on- they were all up, in the air, and seemed to be OK-- so I hooked a tow bar and towed it home.

Was I ever lucky... this is what I found this morning when I was cleaning the wheels and tires... how it's possible that it didn't blow, or more surprising it holds air and doesn't leak it beyond me... I was lucky I didn't blow it going 65mph towing it on the interstate!

Whoa!

What I could see before I towed it... looks OK, right?
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Looks are deceiving... look at the tread! holy smokes!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

It is possible they looked fine on the lift, but the tread separated during the tow. You might not have heard or felt it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

yep, that is what I was thinking, happened on the tow home.
Either way, luck was involved
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.


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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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It is possible they looked fine on the lift, but the tread separated during the tow. You might not have heard or felt it.


Funny you should mention that!

I recall hauling it home on the interstate and looking in my outside mirror of my truck and noticing something black flew off the back of the car... didn't put two and two together until now! It must have been tire tread! That is some very well-worn tread for it to just come off like that!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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That's either a tiny wheel and tire, or somebody has a HUGE hand. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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That's either a tiny wheel and tire, or somebody has a HUGE hand. Shocked


- Donald Trump and I have the same size hands.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

They were still retreading old tire carcasses back then. Trucks still do, and that's why you see all those rubber tire chunks along the interstates. I don't think any passenger tire company retreads anymore due to liability.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

That tire was just old and not a retread. And that is a myth about retreaded tires. Most tire alligators come from improperly maintained tires Wink
and they don't retread passenger car tires because of the cost.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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They were still retreading old tire carcasses back then. Trucks still do, and that's why you see all those rubber tire chunks along the interstates. I don't think any passenger tire company retreads anymore due to liability.

There is a place here in the Maritimes that still retreads passenger tires. http://easterntire.ns.ca/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

You are indeed lucky. At least now, with 5 fresh tires you will know their age. As for trucks, I believe you cannot use recaps on the front tires. Rear tires and trailers are fair game. Either there are more trucks on the road or recaps are being crappily done/poor tire maintenance as almost every day I see "alligators" especially on the freeways, and I don't drive all that far.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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You are indeed lucky. At least now, with 5 fresh tires you will know their age. As for trucks, I believe you cannot use recaps on the front tires. Rear tires and trailers are fair game. Either there are more trucks on the road or recaps are being crappily done/poor tire maintenance as almost every day I see "alligators" especially on the freeways, and I don't drive all that far.

Ok, I'm hijacking the thread a little bit...

Perhaps people aren't as diligent at cleaning up their mess nowadays (tire alligators on the side of the road) as they did back in the day.

Also, just positing this. perhaps the tires were over inflated?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

We've had about six tires explode on the Arizona interstates, at least half were Michelins under 1 year old for which the tire pressures were checked the same day. One had 3-inches only on each rim side, the metal of the wheel was visible; drove 3 miles on shoulder on the metal rim to lighted place to change tire (rim was still usable).

Last time it happened to me, was similar to the posted photos, did not deflate.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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We've had about six tires explode on the Arizona interstates, at least half were Michelins under 1 year old for which the tire pressures were checked the same day. One had 3-inches only on each rim side, the metal of the wheel was visible; drove 3 miles on shoulder on the metal rim to lighted place to change tire (rim was still usable).

Last time it happened to me, was similar to the posted photos, did not deflate.

Time for a new tire pressure gauge it seems Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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That's either a tiny wheel and tire, or somebody has a HUGE hand. Shocked


- Donald Trump and I have the same size hands.

Trump is always over compensating. I'll leave it at that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

That is one of my pet peeves when I look at vehicle I am interested in purchasing, tires. If they are beyond my personal date code it is an automatic discount of 350 bucks off the asking price.
You are vey lucky.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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That is one of my pet peeves when I look at vehicle I am interested in purchasing, tires. If they are beyond my personal date code it is an automatic discount of 350 bucks off the asking price.
You are vey lucky.

Worse would be brand new without receipt that are the wrong size.

don't ask me how I know this...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

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You are indeed lucky. At least now, with 5 fresh tires you will know their age. As for trucks, I believe you cannot use recaps on the front tires. Rear tires and trailers are fair game. Either there are more trucks on the road or recaps are being crappily done/poor tire maintenance as almost every day I see "alligators" especially on the freeways, and I don't drive all that far.

Ok, I'm hijacking the thread a little bit...

Perhaps people aren't as diligent at cleaning up their mess nowadays (tire alligators on the side of the road) as they did back in the day.

Also, just positing this. perhaps the tires were over inflated?

Kyle


In SoCal apparently it's OK to leave whole sections of cars at the side of the road for days+. Also ladders, BBQ's, you name it. It takes weeks for Caltrans or whoever to clean up crap out here. So tire debris is a low priority job, although apparently so is everything else. At least large roadkill isn't a problem out here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

I don't know if I missed it but did you get the manufacture date code off that separated tire?

I'm curious as to how old it is?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

Can't be that bad, it got you home.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: I towed a Beetle home yesterday... wait until you see the tire! Reply with quote

I laughed.....we hauled home a Super a few months ago - the garage it was in was pretty dark and had to squeeze around to get air into the passenger side tires. Hooked it up and off we went - drove maybe 5 miles and stopped to check the tires since one looked a little low......Pretty much the same as yours....My wife was sweating bullets the remaining 25 miles to the shop....Yeah - recaps don't seem to hold up real well after sitting flat after 20 years Laughing
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