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dave1 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2003 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom, London
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:18 am Post subject: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Hi
My 52 Split beetle has windows like an oval with the quarter light. I was told that some 52 beetles came like that. My question is that I want to fit a one piece window, can I do this with the mechanism in place. Could someone put a picture up of the window mechanism fitted in a split door
Thank you in advance for your help
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splitjunkie Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4092
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Sounds like you have a zwitter. What does your dash look like?
This? Early Split
This? Zwitter
_________________ Chris
You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld |
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dave1 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2003 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom, London
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Hi,
The dash is a split. I have the birth certificate. (Feb 52). Can I get conformation that the window set up I have is for a split as I too thought that the doors would be oval but have been assured that they are split
Thanks Dave |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:12 am Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Let's make it easy.
No cars with this dash came from the factory with doors with vent wing windows
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allsidius Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2010 Posts: 1475 Location: Norway
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dave1 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2003 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom, London
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:29 am Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Would it be possible to post the difference between a split door & a oval door as my split has been modified with the back oval window & possibly the oval quarter light mods thank you |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:44 am Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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dave1 wrote: |
Would it be possible to post the difference between a split door & a oval door as my split has been modified with the back oval window & possibly the oval quarter light mods thank you |
Post pictures of what you are working with.
Or, you can use the search in the gallery and find pics yourself. |
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usariemen Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:55 am Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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dave1 wrote: |
Would it be possible to post the difference between a split door & a oval door as my split has been modified with the back oval window & possibly the oval quarter light mods thank you |
I do not think someone goes through the struggle to add the quarter windows to the old split doors.
More probably the zwitter or early oval doors where changed into the car.
Easy mod compared to the rear window change.
How about posting a load of pics of several areas of your car?
People here can tell you what you have. _________________ Master of my domain! |
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14576 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:03 am Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Buy some 1949- Sept '52 doors and install them. You'll save money by sourcing complete doors (doors, regulator & glass). Nothing is compatible with the Oct 1952-later doors you have now, except possibly the exterior handle, inner handle & winder.
As everyone else is stating, post pics of your door. No doubt you have Oct 1952-55 ribbed doors, possibly even 1956-later doors _________________ 1947 Typ 11a
1954 Typ 117
1956 Typ 151
1959 Typ 117
1959 Typ 265
1961 356B
1966 Typ 151
1966 Typ 241 |
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DDub Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2005 Posts: 307 Location: central pa.
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:03 am Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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As Rare-Air alludes to pre-Sept.'52 doors are manufactured different then later doors. Wouldn't the original color of the doors be a give away if they were swapped unless they found doors from the same color car? |
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tisius Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2011 Posts: 1570 Location: Rotterdam,NL (+Chicago,IL)
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Not if the whole car has been repainted at that point in time _________________ drive it like you just robbed the bank
you don't have to be crazy to be into VW's, but it sure helps!!
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DDub Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2005 Posts: 307 Location: central pa.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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I'm thinking inside. Very few people paint the whole inside of the car and somewhere there should be original color showing. |
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dave1 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2003 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom, London
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Hi
I have attached a picture from the samba which is the same as my door on the 52 split beetle. Let me know your thoughts
Thanks Dave
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Let's see the same view of your door. |
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dave1 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2003 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom, London
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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The door in the picture is exactly the same type/shape as on my 52 with the quarter light type window fitted. |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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dave1 wrote: |
The door in the picture is exactly the same type/shape as on my 52 with the quarter light type window fitted. |
Right, so show a picture of it so we can see how the vent wing was fitted. |
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DDub Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2005 Posts: 307 Location: central pa.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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The radius on the raised area around the door panel is different from split to oval. The upper left hand corner in your picture would also show an unfinished weld not seen on the oval door. |
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Bob Loblaw Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2008 Posts: 865 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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nlorntson wrote: |
dave1 wrote: |
Would it be possible to post the difference between a split door & a oval door as my split has been modified with the back oval window & possibly the oval quarter light mods thank you |
Post pictures of what you are working with. |
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How about posting a load of pics of several areas of your car? |
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As everyone else is stating, post pics of your door. |
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Let's see the same view of your door. |
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so show a picture of it so we can see how the vent wing was fitted. |
There's a theme going on here. Help us help you. _________________ sent from a phone using poor grammar and spelling |
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dave1 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2003 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom, London
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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Hi Guys
I have finally managed to take pictures of the door type on my 52 split beetle.
thank you
Dave
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: 52 Split beetle windows |
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dave1 wrote: |
Hi Guys
I have finally managed to take pictures of the door type on my 52 split beetle.
thank you
Dave
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That is an early oval window door (up to mid 1955).
This is a split door
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