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tb03830 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2009 Posts: 1045 Location: Leavenworth, KS
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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I have 1200 cc engine. I put he distributor timing shaft in 180- degrees out when I built the engine. I have the tool to remove it but can not get it to move. What am I doing wrong here. Yes, I did remove the spring first.
_________________ "Sic Vic Pacem, Para bellum - Pray for peace, prepare for war."
1964 Convertible Bug - 1600cc SP engine with a stock H30/31 Carb and SVDA Distributor - Swing Arm Highway Flyer Tranny, Gene Berg's Temperature Dipstick, 2.5" drop spindles, 2" narrowed adjustable front end. Chromed OEM fan tower. |
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flyboy161 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2009 Posts: 2091 Location: Perry, GA
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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tb03830 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2009 Posts: 1045 Location: Leavenworth, KS
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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flyboy161 wrote: |
Assuming you did, remember the it is a rotational twist to pull it out. |
Yes, I did pull the fuel pump and the rod out. Rotational Twist...Hmmmm clockwise or counter clockwise. I did not do that. Thought it would simply put out. Did not think of how it set in the teeth. _________________ "Sic Vic Pacem, Para bellum - Pray for peace, prepare for war."
1964 Convertible Bug - 1600cc SP engine with a stock H30/31 Carb and SVDA Distributor - Swing Arm Highway Flyer Tranny, Gene Berg's Temperature Dipstick, 2.5" drop spindles, 2" narrowed adjustable front end. Chromed OEM fan tower. |
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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bugheadred Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2003 Posts: 666
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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flyboy161 wrote: |
As I recall it is a counterclockwise pull |
x2 counter clockwise |
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flyboy161 Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2009 Posts: 2091 Location: Perry, GA
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31271 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.
Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom? _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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tb03830 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2009 Posts: 1045 Location: Leavenworth, KS
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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Cusser wrote: |
Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.
Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom? |
Reindex? Never done that. How? _________________ "Sic Vic Pacem, Para bellum - Pray for peace, prepare for war."
1964 Convertible Bug - 1600cc SP engine with a stock H30/31 Carb and SVDA Distributor - Swing Arm Highway Flyer Tranny, Gene Berg's Temperature Dipstick, 2.5" drop spindles, 2" narrowed adjustable front end. Chromed OEM fan tower. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9665 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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tb03830 wrote: |
Cusser wrote: |
Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.
Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom? |
Reindex? Never done that. How? |
Remove the spring wrapped around the dist drive dog. There is a pin under it that can be driven out with a drift punch while the drive dog is held in a vice. Make sure to mark the dist shaft before driving the pin out. Once the pin is out rotate the dist drive shaft 180* and reinsert the pin. Make sure to reinstall the spring around the drive dog and your good to go.
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kevin11 Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2004 Posts: 828 Location: Arlington,Texas
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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turn the crank a little also while pulling out the shaft.and make sure you don't lose the two shims that are under the shaft. |
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5593 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
tb03830 wrote: |
Cusser wrote: |
Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.
Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom? |
Reindex? Never done that. How? |
Remove the spring wrapped around the dist drive dog. There is a pin under it that can be driven out with a drift punch while the drive dog is held in a vice. Make sure to mark the dist shaft before driving the pin out. Once the pin is out rotate the dist drive shaft 180* and reinsert the pin. Make sure to reinstall the spring around the drive dog and your good to go.
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This 'trick' has worked for me on an engine. Afraid I would mess up the brass gear. OR you can do like some folks here do and swear by it, re-index the ignition wires. You may/may not have a distributor with a 3° retard on #3 but what the hell. Turning the cog 180° on the distributor lines everything up and you don't have to take a lot of other things apart or take a chance of messing up the brass gear or dropping those two washers on the end of the distributor drive gear down in the case. If you are going to take the gear out anyway, have the engine on a stand and rotate it up-side down. Let gravity be your friend. Also, you lessen the chance of losing those two washers. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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On the Beetle, Ghia and Bus; the only distributors that had #3 lobe retarded were the 113 905 205 M and T. _________________ Roads Scholar &
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kreemoweet Samba Member
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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I have had the bottom shims stick to the DD and gaul up the brass gear-(a very forgiving piece by the way)- So look down the fuel pump hole and watch for those shims. _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5593 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help |
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tasb wrote: |
On the Beetle, Ghia and Bus; the only distributors that had #3 lobe retarded were the 113 905 205 M and T. |
and here I thought it was on all engines that had the oil cooler in the fan shroud. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
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