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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:25 am    Post subject: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

I have 1200 cc engine. I put he distributor timing shaft in 180- degrees out when I built the engine. I have the tool to remove it but can not get it to move. What am I doing wrong here. Yes, I did remove the spring first.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

And of course, you removed the fuel pump and the pump rod, ya?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

Assuming you did, remember the it is a rotational twist to pull it out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

flyboy161 wrote:
Assuming you did, remember the it is a rotational twist to pull it out.


Yes, I did pull the fuel pump and the rod out. Rotational Twist...Hmmmm clockwise or counter clockwise. I did not do that. Thought it would simply put out. Did not think of how it set in the teeth.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

As I recall it is a counterclockwise pull
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

flyboy161 wrote:
As I recall it is a counterclockwise pull


x2 counter clockwise
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

Same goes when you put it back in. Set it about 10 degrees from perpendicular to the case seam and it should clockwise rotate in to perpendicular
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.

Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

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Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.

Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom?


Reindex? Never done that. How?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

tb03830 wrote:
Cusser wrote:
Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.

Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom?


Reindex? Never done that. How?

Remove the spring wrapped around the dist drive dog. There is a pin under it that can be driven out with a drift punch while the drive dog is held in a vice. Make sure to mark the dist shaft before driving the pin out. Once the pin is out rotate the dist drive shaft 180* and reinsert the pin. Make sure to reinstall the spring around the drive dog and your good to go.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

turn the crank a little also while pulling out the shaft.and make sure you don't lose the two shims that are under the shaft.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

67rustavenger wrote:
tb03830 wrote:
Cusser wrote:
Doesn't the fuel pump flange also need removal? I have the tool but haven't done this in 30 years.

Why not just re-index the drive dogs on the distributor bottom?


Reindex? Never done that. How?

Remove the spring wrapped around the dist drive dog. There is a pin under it that can be driven out with a drift punch while the drive dog is held in a vice. Make sure to mark the dist shaft before driving the pin out. Once the pin is out rotate the dist drive shaft 180* and reinsert the pin. Make sure to reinstall the spring around the drive dog and your good to go.
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This 'trick' has worked for me on an engine. Afraid I would mess up the brass gear. OR you can do like some folks here do and swear by it, re-index the ignition wires. You may/may not have a distributor with a 3° retard on #3 but what the hell. Turning the cog 180° on the distributor lines everything up and you don't have to take a lot of other things apart or take a chance of messing up the brass gear or dropping those two washers on the end of the distributor drive gear down in the case. If you are going to take the gear out anyway, have the engine on a stand and rotate it up-side down. Let gravity be your friend. Also, you lessen the chance of losing those two washers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

On the Beetle, Ghia and Bus; the only distributors that had #3 lobe retarded were the 113 905 205 M and T.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

The old-style distributor drive pinions can only be removed/installed when they are in a specific position.
See http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2245391#2245391
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

I have had the bottom shims stick to the DD and gaul up the brass gear-(a very forgiving piece by the way)- So look down the fuel pump hole and watch for those shims.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Distributor Shaft Removal help Reply with quote

tasb wrote:
On the Beetle, Ghia and Bus; the only distributors that had #3 lobe retarded were the 113 905 205 M and T.


and here I thought it was on all engines that had the oil cooler in the fan shroud. Confused
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