1978 Westfalia Champagne Edition aka Frannie

[Chochobeef]

I'll take the Porsche

Aside from that, very nice. You definitely put in the work and it paid off. That first camping experience with your girls probably had them talking for a week and to all their friends.

Look forward to more photos and stories.

[SGKent]

main things to consider on any bay that is saved:

1) the fuel hoses are lengthy. Replace always if in doubt when they were last replaced.

2) tires rot from the inside too. Example - we bought new tires in 2009. They have almost 8 years on them and about 3,000 miles. Its almost time to sell them to someone who drives a lot more with their bus and buy a new set. Once they get to 10 years, even in a garage I won't trust them at freeway speeds. Yours could be 15 - 20 years old.


3) when a bus sits it gets spiders, mice etc in it. Mice and hanta go together so water and bleach to clean any nests. When one sees black widow webs there is one nearby. Plenty of sprays that will kill them. We probably killed 50 in our bus when we bought it and several active wasp colonies. In fact there was a swarm following it when we had it towed home.

4) It is a nice bus and you will enjoy it. Be patient with it as there will be times it will tax your patience. But there are little to no cars out there that can be as much fun.
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[Jaymeandyan]

I still have all the FI original parts... I guess I could just have someone look at it. But I really think a dual carb setup might help from what I have read. It is definitely less complicated. Even though I want to mod this out a little. I will keep all the original parts in case someone wants to offer me a pretty penny.

I did replace all the fuel lines and clamps to german oe style and I purchased the blazecut as well HA!

I did a little bit of research and then found out about all the fires and freaked out so I did that first.

We had such a great time on our camping trip and are really shocked at how much we were able to load into the bus... It was truly designed well. Not to mention everything in it worked. We even had AC when driving.

[Jaymeandyan]

[khalimadeath]

nice work, use this stuff on your paint, it will shine it right up.

https://www.carcareproducts.com.au/product/einszett_1z/extra_paint_cleaner

Also as far as tires, im kicking myself in the ass for buying tires that only give me a payload of 5600 lbs. I don't have much room to play with. get some 15" steelies. They have much more tire options than 14" or 16" wheels.
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1970 Bus Westfalia
1964 Kombi

[curtp07]

Some nice adel clamps and get rid of all that garbage insulation and press board above the engine....dynamat sells nice fire...resistant insulation.

I think I have a shiny penny for all the FI stuff too...I'll pick a good one.
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[secretsubmariner]

[curtp07]

78 CE with FI gets a solid 23mpg.

Great power, tuned well.

3 things doom the FI:

1. Ignorance
2. Some people just like/know carbs..maybe a bit of #1 thrown in, maybe not.
3. OLD COMPONENTS

A new wiring harness, cleaned injectors, new CSV, fuel lines, FPR and we will see how the orange bus goes with the new engine...

With this site for reference if I can do it, anyone can...
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Subaru

[Bala]

[wcfvw69]

I keep reading about the need for ethanol resistant fuel line, diaphragms and the damage this ethanol fuel does. In all the years I've been on this site, I've never seen someone post any pictures of degraded/damaged fuel hose, diaphragms or other fuel system components.

At times I wonder if this is simply an internet myth. I've run the German braided fuel line forever. I usually change it ever 2-3 years just to be safe. I always cut it down the middle looking for any damage or issues from the ethanol in our fuel when I remove it from a VW. I also am running NOS rebuild kits in my original Pierburg Fuel pumps. These kits were made decades ago, before ethanol was added to the fuel. So, the rubber diaphragms in these NOS kits are not engineered to specifically handle alcohol. I've never had a failure of one of those diaphragms or fuel pumps.

I'm NOT saying I'm right but the vast majority of fuel line issues are caused from OLD fuel lines or the wrong rated ones on fuel injected engines. Everyone on this site has found really old, dry, brittle fuel hoses on their new to them used VW.
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[Bala]

Do a google search and you'll find plenty of evidence, VW and non-VW.
I put new German fuel line on my '63 beetle a few years back and within a little over a year the ends were cracked and a the internals of the rubber line were coated in degraded black rubber slime.

Kind of like this picture from the gallery, but not as extreme:

More:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?...t_dir=DESC

I guess we're getting a bit off topic.

OP. any more pictures of that CEII?
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[secretsubmariner]

[Jaymeandyan]

This thread just went all over the place haha!

Here is a new pic.. Found an old fog light at home and painted the housing ivory... Not sure if like it or not... but hey it was a free find.

[secretsubmariner]

that's badass. I am a fan of ivory on champagnes.
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1978 Champagne Edition Bus FI
1970 Auto Fastback FI

[Jaymeandyan]

[Wasted youth]

Excellent find, no doubt. CEII Westies are limited in number. I had a 1977 CEI sunroof bus with good running fuel injection and totally miss it.

As for power... you've got late 1970's technology administering a large lawnmower engine shoving a giant brick all over Colorado. Not sure if you can expect any more power than what you have, carbs or FI...

I totally dig that Coleman cooler. Last year I finally got rid of ours (same as yours) dating from 1976 when we went from California to Colorado and back. But I have another one just like it, just a bit taller.

[Jaymeandyan]

Haven't done as much re-search as I could but what and how much money do you think it would take to throw a turbo kit on it. I just need a little help getting up the mountains. I really would like to also tow a small boat or 4 wheelers...

[danfromsyr]

about the cost of 2-3 engines
it'll blow up in short order on a stock T-IV motor moving a loaded bus and towing to boot.

look into the Subaru (or other) swaps if you can't live with 25mph
though a turbo suffers the least from altitude sickness, they are the most complicated and create alot of heat as well as the supportive systems to keep them operating properly.
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[Jaymeandyan]

Or i could throw in my 911 motor into it...

I guess i'll look into the BUSARU route.

[danfromsyr]

there are those on the other side of the pond
slipping 1.8t 5spds into Bays by inverting the oe passat 5spd trans.
if you are DIY handy, the trail has been outlined on the internets.

you won't be lacking or begging for power then.. and probably significantly cheaper than building a turbo T-IV
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