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jurgen272 Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2009 Posts: 32 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:21 pm Post subject: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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I have a 36hp engine with WW Okrasa kit and camshaft, everything else is stock
With the standard jets in the replica Solex's the engine is running rich. (Idle screw is turned in completely, ...)
Any advice on which jets I should change/use (at sea level)? _________________ 67 type 2 (walkthru - sliding door)
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: south san francisco
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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the jetting should be fine. i would check the float level. maybe loose or bad float valve? those things are made in india after all and have some bugs in them sometimes. luckily standard solex parts work in them. or high fuel pressure will cause that. _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
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56samba Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2015 Posts: 262 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:45 am Post subject: Re: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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Hi,
don't have experience with the WW Okrasa kit, but I guess they tried to copy the original Okrasa jet sizes?
http://felix03.jimdo.com/die-vergaser/der-solex-32-34-picb-vergaser/
there you can see some sizes, but they should be the same that you're running. When I rebuilt my original Solex carbs and bought new gaskets, there was the choice between a Solex 1.5 and 2.0 jet, I choosed the smaller one as it was installed before...
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jurgen272 Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2009 Posts: 32 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:59 am Post subject: Re: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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sgmalt46 wrote: |
the jetting should be fine. i would check the float level. maybe loose or bad float valve? those things are made in india after all and have some bugs in them sometimes. luckily standard solex parts work in them. or high fuel pressure will cause that. |
Had some timr to work on the car Today.
Started with changing the oil. Oil was really thin and smelled like gas.
Guess you are right about float and/or fuel pressure.
Any advise on getting those right? _________________ 67 type 2 (walkthru - sliding door)
57 oval ragtop (in restoration)
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tobiasax Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 202 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:19 am Post subject: Re: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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56samba wrote: |
Hi,
don't have experience with the WW Okrasa kit, but I guess they tried to copy the original Okrasa jet sizes?
http://felix03.jimdo.com/die-vergaser/der-solex-32-34-picb-vergaser/
there you can see some sizes, but they should be the same that you're running. When I rebuilt my original Solex carbs and bought new gaskets, there was the choice between a Solex 1.5 and 2.0 jet, I choosed the smaller one as it was installed before...
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The WW carbs have much larger venturies compared to the originals (according to my info 26mm vs 23/24mm), thus the jet sizes might be different. _________________ __________________________________________ |
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sgmalt46 Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2005 Posts: 1296 Location: south san francisco
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:14 am Post subject: Re: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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it is not a jet problem. i have built them with no problem. high fuel pressure or bad float valves. the jets they come with are fine. _________________ 55 deluxe 23 window bus
64 crew cab
55 rag top beetle
66 beetle
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type241 Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 972 Location: MOSES LAKE, WA
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:41 am Post subject: Re: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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Too much fuel pressure. correct 2.5 -3.5 psi. I just bought the Wolfsburg West 36 hp fuel pump rebuild kit and the spring was much stronger and even longer. I didn't even use the spring in the kit. Ended up using the OG spring and the diaphragm from the kit.
I don't know whether you bought that fuel pump kit. Just assuming since your Okrasa kit came from them. |
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Mr. OGPaint Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2010 Posts: 823 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:58 am Post subject: Re: 36hp engine with WW Okrasa running rich |
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I agree with most here. Many people don't realize how much float level effects mixture. The float bowl is not simply a place where fuel sets before entering the engine. the level of the float effects ts the level of fuel in all the internal passage ways of the carburetor and in some cases emulsion tube level. This effects how easily fuel mixes with air as it passes thru the carburetor.
Too high of a setting on fuel pressure will also overwhelm the float and cause mixture issues as stated by others here. If you are having fuel in oil you have a very big issue with mixture or unburnt fuel in the system. Also, pierced fuel pump diaphragm can cause oil in fuel. Good luck, proceed with care _________________ https://instagram.com/mr.ogpaint
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