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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31362 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:02 am Post subject: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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I have been thinking of getting a used ATV to drag the harrow through the horse arena, the lawn tractor tires just spin in the sand/dirt even though it can pull that harrow over regular dirt. So far we have been borrowing an ATV from the neighbor, taking advantage of his neighborly actions.
Anyway, yesterday, tried out something we already had yesterday to pull that harrow, our 1998 4-cylinder, 2WD 5-speed Frontier with 207K miles on it, did a nice job, did not get stuck; regular all-season tires, no weight added to truck bed either.
So now I'm thinking that maybe I should fix up my currently un-used 1970 VW to do this job, that would get even better traction as the weight is directly over the drive wheels; might need to find a hitch to bolt onto the VW though, don't think bumper would be strong enough.
I know this idea will spark some controversy here as many here feel old VWs should be fixed up and road driven (which I would still do), but this might be a good job for my oldest VW to do. So far all I've done to get it going again is to lube the door and window hardware this week. But I have a goal to get this running by year's end now that I'm "retired".
Edit: it looks like tow hitches for these are still available new (CURT Class 1 Fixed-Tongue Trailer Hitch #11652) for about $175 shipped or maybe I can find one in Classifieds or at a swap meet.
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/1657674683...8wII1AEwAA _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297
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johnnypan Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 7431 Location: sackamenna
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena |
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Ford N series,you can get them cheap... |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena |
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Absolutely, there's nothing cheaper than a vehicle that you already have. That beetle would love to be your work horse, they were work horses before they became "collectibles" & it's not like you're trying to clear stumps & saplings with it. And I would think that it would be a better ride than the truck, tractor, or the 4wheeler. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena |
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Yep use the old 70 as a tow vehicle, it will love it Here is the Bonneville Pit Bug, goes there twice a year when they are racing.
probably find a used hitch at a vw swap. _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31362 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena |
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And I can keep a VW alive way easier than some ATV for which I'd be 100% inexperienced.
On the other hand, I've done pretty well learning lawn mower, lawn tractor, jacuzzi, above ground pool, ice machine, washer & dryer repairs, my other vehicles...just as long as there's no mouse and keyboard !!! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12721 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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The only thing I love seeing more than a Volkswagen, is a Volkswagen being used for something cool or useful. This falls into both!! _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
One-on-one tech help for your Volkswagen:
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51131 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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Nothing wrong with awakening it for some work, likely better for it than sitting.
Have you considered tire chains for the lawn tractor?, my decrepid 50 year old John Deere 110 harrows the wifes arena pretty good with it's (used to be) 8Hp. Bogs down in the puffy parts if it's damp but smaller bites gets it done, rarely spins the tires with the chains on. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31362 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Have you considered tire chains for the lawn tractor?, my decrepid 50 year old John Deere 110 harrows the wifes arena pretty good with it's (used to be) 8Hp. Bogs down in the puffy parts if it's damp but smaller bites gets it done, rarely spins the tires with the chains on. |
Yes, have thought of that, didn't have any input from anyone who tried this.
I also thought of sand-type tires to replace the original tires, that would be like $200 minimum just to try. My lawn tractor is supposedly 20 hp. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51131 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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I just shortened a set of snow chains I had kicking around, I guess they don't come free in the trunk of every old used car/truck you find in AZ like they do here? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31362 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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The lawn tractor does not travel very fast, and several passes would need to be made. So I just think that in reality it would be too slow.
I'll likely move ahead with the VW idea; with retirement, was thinking of working on that after summer ends (October, it is Arizona), but think I'll move the timetable up.
First thing is tires for that 1970 VW, maybe find a set of somewhat wider wheels for the rear...not going to cut the fenders though.... _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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No need for different wheels, it's common to put 215/75/15 BFGs on the stock ones. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31362 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
No need for different wheels, it's common to put 215/75/15 BFGs on the stock ones. |
Really, didn't know that? Thanks, I'll look into that, at least for the rear, as the tires are at least 25 years old and flat right now !!! That 1970 has the stock wheels. Is BFG BF Goodrich? _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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Yes sir, do a search in HBB off-road for class11 & several will come up. Dustymojave suggests that's it's the usual tire (but some tire shops may not want to install them.). Someone just had some installed & the first shop declined but the next was willing to accept his money. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51131 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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Hmmmmm......, got me thinking about a shorty singlecab I've got out behind the barn, my tractor could out cool your tractor _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16865 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Hmmmmm......, got me thinking about a shorty singlecab I've got out behind the barn, my tractor could out cool your tractor |
THAT is the perfect use of every shorty ever made _________________
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Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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TDCTDI wrote: |
Yes sir, do a search in HBB off-road for class11 & several will come up. Dustymojave suggests that's it's the usual tire (but some tire shops may not want to install them.). Someone just had some installed & the first shop declined but the next was willing to accept his money. |
Yeah. Legal liability scares a lot of businesses these days. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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You can run a 235/75/15 on a stock wheel. That's gonna be the coolest lawn mower west of the Mississippi. _________________ HBB took me to BBV. |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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OK, dumb question: what is the width of a stock 1970 beetle wheel?
And is 1971 the same?
I think I'll have trouble finding a place to install wider tires than "a book" states. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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Hey, Cusser-------I been thinkin' about this all afternoon here.
So yer lookin' for a way to pull a harrow around a horse arena?
Why not get yerself a nice, sturdy HORSE to pull it?
Maybe one of them Clydesdales like pull that beer wagon. |
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enjoyther1de Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Drag harrow through horse arena with VW |
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Cusser wrote: |
OK, dumb question: what is the width of a stock 1970 beetle wheel?
And is 1971 the same?
I think I'll have trouble finding a place to install wider tires than "a book" states. |
4" _________________ HBB took me to BBV. |
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