10 year old rebuilt engine. Still good?

[splitjunkie]

[ArtistGollaher]

Another bit of info. The metal bit that I found in the strainer was not picked up by a magnet.
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was it from the top of an oil container?

[ArtistGollaher]

No it was a thicker metal. I could bend it but it takes a little force.
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ok looks thinner in the pic

[ArtistGollaher]

What could a chunk of aluminum like that come off of?
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[splitjunkie]

It's nothing that should be in there. It looks like aluminum or magnesium. Just split the case and be done with it. There have been more than enough red flags at this point.
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[ArtistGollaher]

Some more pics of my progress. Got the cylinders off and this is what I can see so far.

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[Helfen]

That's some rebuilt engine. A real midnight auto. Time to start ALL over.

[splitjunkie]

You can see the Moly grease on the cam and lifters so that is most likely what is in the oil. So it does appear that the engine was "rebuilt" and never run. Cam looks used and the lifters look shiny so they are probably used too.

The inside of the oil pump cover looks weird. Will all of that crud wipe off? Does it look like it is oil with Moly grease mixed in or is that rust?
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[Helfen]

[ArtistGollaher]

I see. Well that's a little bit of relief. Yes on the pump cover that isn't rust, but the oil with grease.
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[splitjunkie]

As long as the parts were within specifications they don't really need to be replaced. I do see new cam bearings peeking around the cam in one picture.

The piece of metal that you found in the strainer is concerning. What is it and where did it come from? Is there more like that in there?

The gunk that you pulled out of the lifter didn't look like clean grease.

The cleaning of the case and parts is very half assed by my standards.

We already know that only one of the pistons is new.

The nuts on the oil pump originally had a plastic sealing surface on them. Looks like instead of using new nuts they just put some RTV on them. Not that big of a detail but another shortcut.

It also looks like they might have used RTV between the oil pump and body. This is not a good idea as it can get squeezed into the oil passages and end up in the bearings or the relief valve.

The rebuild job on the heads looks pretty iffy to me. The exhaust studs are very rusty and some of the head looks like it wasn't bead blasted very well.

Generally remanufactured heads will be very thoroughly cleaned and new valve guides and valves installed after the seats are recut. Any studs that need to be replaced get replaced. These heads look like they were done in house and given all the other shortcuts I would question if the guides were replaced if they were worn.

Certainly not a top notch rebuild by any standard.
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[ArtistGollaher]

So I guess it was either really rebuilt by archway imports or it was once rebuilt by archway and then po rebuilt again without much care.
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[splitjunkie]

[ArtistGollaher]

Seeing more of inside the case do you think I should still split the case, or would it be good to put back together and fire her up?
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[67rustavenger]

Open it up. You need to know where that chunk of metal came from.
Also this is an opportunity to re-lube all of the moving parts. While it's apart take time to measure everything so that you know for sure that all is good.
I know I was a bit of an a$$hole the last time I posted in your thread. My intent was to push you into making a decision on weather to start it or tear it apart. Looks like you made the right choice. Your this far along. You might as well complete the job for piece of mind.
Good Luck.
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[ZENVWDRIVER]

I had a 1964 type 2 1500 rebuilt using 1600 heads in1988 by a great builder named George Filchak of Norwood, NJ... he really did it right. I have had that engine in 3 busses. Currently in my 1960 single cab... still running great, zero oil leaking and great compression... never drive over 50 mph... almost 30 years since rebuild.
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