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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

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If you have a 2inch fuel line you can't exactly just pinch it and damn old man I thought your back was bad? That shite gets really heavy really quick

you must be thinking of your younger years with a good back and good fuel line and good seals. That shit is long gone - drain the damn tank and get that gas in your armpit. It's good for you ... LOL


This was back in May of '09 and the back took a shit in '10 and '12. I can still do these things but I wisely choose not to because the '12 disc snip was a result of me not "getting it" the first time. Wink

The original injury was spring of 1978 during a weightlifting competition. They wanted to operate then but I said no and i recovered and was generally OK until the thing flipped me the bird after shoving a bunch of cars around by myself in '10.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

So I did the tie rod end today. Wound up buying from bughaus, they are shipping the OCAP tie rod end. OCAP is an Italian firm which is supposedly a VW OEM. Bughaus notes that if they are out of OCAP they will ship either Meyle or Nakata which they describe as of equal quality to OCAP.

Here's the tie rod end as received (the tie rod end was shipped with a protective plastic cover over the threads as well as one over the boot, they have been removed for the photo):

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Here's the offending tie rod end (after I had already bent up the lock plate and unscrewed the lock nut):

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Couldn't find any manufacturer markings on it.

Before uninstalling it, I took a measurement from a specific location on the tie rod (the nut for the inner tie rod end) to the center point of of the outer tie rod end. I also noted the distance to the outer edge of the steering knuckle while I was measuring. I also took the time to count the number of turns to unscrew the old one so I'd at least have a baseline for when to stop screwing the new one in. This worked out really well.

Removed the tie rod end from the steering knuckle using a tie rod tool lent by D/A/N and neena, thanks guys! Made it a snap, it popped right out:

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Got the new one installed with no trouble and got my measurements exact so the toe should not be affected. When ordering the parts I didn't realize there was a lock plate so I didn't have a new one. I made do by re-purposing a front wheel bearing nut lock plate and just cut the center bit out of it. Worked out pretty good. For posterity's sake (and future searches) the black nut on the tie rod is 24mm and the lock nut is 22mm.

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Took it for a spin afterwards and WOW!! The steering is rock solid and precise. It must have been clunking for a while and shame on me for not catching it. Between the new tie rod end and the steering box being adjusted properly this thing drives sweet! Tracks nice and straight, not fidgety at high speed and over bumps, and the steering wheel is horizontal when going straight. I think now I have an idea about just how nice these cars would have steered when they were new.

In other news, the brake light switch saga continues! The NOS Ate switch started dying today - usual symptoms - intermittent activation, delayed activation, high pressure required for activation. I decided to replace it before it totally crapped out. Unwilling to subject my other NOS Ate switch to certain death, this time I decided to throw in the Harley-Davidson switch that I bought a while ago. HD used brake light pressure switches and DOT5 brake fluid for a time and it turns out the HD switches will fit the VW master cylinder. So this will be an experiment.

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The HD switch threads into the master cylinder just fine, except that the threads are a bit longer than the Ate or FTE switches. So I put some Teflon thread-sealing tape on there just in case. So far it doesn't seem to be leaking or seeping but I'll keep an eye on it. Here's the HD switch installed:

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As for operation, it works great. Activates quickly and with very little pressure. I hope it stands up to DOT5.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

The OE one was probably a Lemforder - their logo is on the top of the dome under what looks like paint on yours.

OCAPs are good parts.

You probably won't find the lock plates for the tie rod nut - no one seems to stock them or make them. Good alternate using the lock plate for the spindle nuts!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

Just a quick note on the Harley-Davidson brake light switch after doing some driving - I really like it for activation time! It takes barely any pressure on the pedal to switch the brake lights on. It's almost like having a pedal position-activated switch in that respect. I just hope the DOT5 doesn't eat it in a month.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

Hey I'd love to pick the experts' brains on this issue:

I had this issue last summer and now that the weather is warming up again it seems to be coming back after having been absent all winter. What's happening is I'm sometimes getting a stumble at idle - it will be idling smoothly and then the idle will just suddenly dip down what feels like 100-150 rpm and then recover. It has never stalled doing this yet but it sometimes feels like it might. This only happens when:

1) the outside temperature is warm, like 70s and up
2) the engine is fully warmed up/hot
3) the car has been sitting in a lot of traffic or idling a lot.

I've been through the ignition system and everything is in spec, timing is spot on at 10 deg. BTDC, point gap is .016" and points look good and it runs smoothly otherwise.

One thing that is weird is that even though my points gap is spot on .016", when I hook up my digital dwell meter it shows dwell at ~37 degrees which of course is low. But to get dwell to 47-50 degrees I'd have to close the point gap up to much less than .016". So what's up with that? Is my meter just crap? The car is 6v but I don't think that should matter as this meter is self-powered.

Anyway, I was thinking maybe the hot idle stumble is possibly the result of a rich idle mixture...on the theory that generally when the thing runs great when cold but not when hot, things are too rich. The exhaust at idle certainly smells a bit rich so I'll play with re-tuning the carbs a bit and see what happens but I just wanted to put it out there to see if the experts have run into this kind of thing before and might be able to put me on the right path.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

Is it persistent? Do you use different gas stations?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

Vapor lock?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.

I have also found that the car responds much better to premium fuel vs. mid grade or 87.

Which distributor are you using?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

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Is it persistent? Do you use different gas stations?


It seems to be persistent; it's not something I can cause on demand but it seems to happen pretty reliably if dealing with a lot of slow traffic on a warm/hot day.

I generally get gas from a Mobil station near my house, never had any issues with the gas there across several vehicles for the last year. Maybe I'll try a different station for the next couple tanks just to see if that makes any difference.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

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Vapor lock?


I did think about that. But then there are no fuel supply issues when moving off from idle and hot re-starts are no problem.

My fuel hoses are routed the way they're supposed to be and the engine does not seem to be running particularly hot so I'm skeptical of vapor lock, especially at this time of year.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

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I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


Carbs are tuned and synced quite well, it seems to start and run well in all situations

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I have also found that the car responds much better to premium fuel vs. mid grade or 87.


I've been running 93 octane premium even though when Keith rebuilt the engine he installed flat-top pistons rather than the correct S domed pistons.

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Which distributor are you using?


Correct distributor for my engine, 311 905 205 D.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

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I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

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ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
ibjack wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!


Wait, I thought only fuel injected cars had eccentric fuel delivery issues and that only FI car owners traded obscure parts and tools behind the scenes Laughing !
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

D/A/N wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
ibjack wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!


Wait, I thought only fuel injected cars had eccentric fuel delivery issues and that only FI car owners traded obscure parts and tools behind the scenes Laughing !


I'm not having a fuel delivery issue - more of a fine tuning opportunity.

The difference is that I could do it without the tools (more of a 'go/no go' gauge) but I'd prefer to use them if available. How far could you get tuning FI without your electronic gizmos? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
D/A/N wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
ibjack wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!


Wait, I thought only fuel injected cars had eccentric fuel delivery issues and that only FI car owners traded obscure parts and tools behind the scenes Laughing !


I'm not having a fuel delivery issue - more of a fine tuning opportunity.

The difference is that I could do it without the tools (more of a 'go/no go' gauge) but I'd prefer to use them if available. How far could you get tuning FI without your electronic gizmos? Laughing


You mean a VOM? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
D/A/N wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
ibjack wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!


Wait, I thought only fuel injected cars had eccentric fuel delivery issues and that only FI car owners traded obscure parts and tools behind the scenes Laughing !


I'm not having a fuel delivery issue - more of a fine tuning opportunity.

The difference is that I could do it without the tools (more of a 'go/no go' gauge) but I'd prefer to use them if available. How far could you get tuning FI without your electronic gizmos? Laughing


You mean a VOM? Rolling Eyes


Isn't there a cat in a tree you need to retrieve?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
Tram wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
D/A/N wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
ibjack wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!


Wait, I thought only fuel injected cars had eccentric fuel delivery issues and that only FI car owners traded obscure parts and tools behind the scenes Laughing !


I'm not having a fuel delivery issue - more of a fine tuning opportunity.

The difference is that I could do it without the tools (more of a 'go/no go' gauge) but I'd prefer to use them if available. How far could you get tuning FI without your electronic gizmos? Laughing


You mean a VOM? Rolling Eyes


Isn't there a cat in a tree you need to retrieve?


Can't handle the truth, eh?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
Tram wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
D/A/N wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
ibjack wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!


Wait, I thought only fuel injected cars had eccentric fuel delivery issues and that only FI car owners traded obscure parts and tools behind the scenes Laughing !


I'm not having a fuel delivery issue - more of a fine tuning opportunity.

The difference is that I could do it without the tools (more of a 'go/no go' gauge) but I'd prefer to use them if available. How far could you get tuning FI without your electronic gizmos? Laughing


You mean a VOM? Rolling Eyes


Isn't there a cat in a tree you need to retrieve?


Can't handle the truth, eh?


So, that's a...'no' on the cat, then?

Carb ACVWs will always be superior to stock FI, IMO...easier to get running, diagnose, repair and maintain.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: New (to me) 1965 1500 Variant S(!) Reply with quote

ataraxia wrote:
Tram wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
Tram wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
D/A/N wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
ibjack wrote:
ataraxia wrote:
I have a similar situation with my 64 - I'm in the process of getting everything on the linkage/carb adjustment side back to spec 100%, starting with the short linkages on the carbs and then adjusting the left side linkage to spec. The right side gets adjusted in reaction to the left side being set correctly.

I wish I could find a linkage adjustment tool set - it would make this 100% easier.


I can loan you mine if you like


I'll email you.

Thanks!


Wait, I thought only fuel injected cars had eccentric fuel delivery issues and that only FI car owners traded obscure parts and tools behind the scenes Laughing !


I'm not having a fuel delivery issue - more of a fine tuning opportunity.

The difference is that I could do it without the tools (more of a 'go/no go' gauge) but I'd prefer to use them if available. How far could you get tuning FI without your electronic gizmos? Laughing


You mean a VOM? Rolling Eyes


Isn't there a cat in a tree you need to retrieve?


Can't handle the truth, eh?


So, that's a...'no' on the cat, then?

Carb ACVWs will always be superior to stock FI, IMO...easier to get running, diagnose, repair and maintain.


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