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 Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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But another question, as my bus is now in the UK, I cant have the bake lights and turn signals using the same bulb |
You can if it was built without them and before 1st Sept '65...
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_140.htm
"Vehicles first used before 1 September 1965 may have direction indicators incorporated with stop lamps, or combined with side or rear lamps, in which case front indicators may be white and rear indicators red."
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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| strange though right? Its a US delivered double cab, so should have it? |
Yes, very strange!
Up to you, but we prefer not everything going thru one relay. Plus the multiple relays are off the shelf at most FLAPS, not special order.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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| pig-pen wrote: |
But another question, as my bus is now in the UK, I cant have the bake lights and turn signals using the same bulb |
You can if it was built without them and before 1st Sept '65...
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_140.htm
"Vehicles first used before 1 September 1965 may have direction indicators incorporated with stop lamps, or combined with side or rear lamps, in which case front indicators may be white and rear indicators red." |
yep, saw that... but I think people here are too thick to understand that a flashing red light means I am going to turn. Most were unable to comprehend that leaving a european marketplace would plunge their country into an immediate recession, but hey ho.
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pig-pen
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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| strange though right? Its a US delivered double cab, so should have it? |
Yes, it seems weird to me that it's missing if the delivery port is in the USA |
the M code says delivery to San Francisco, so I am guessing the wiring has just been butchered and I didn't look hard enough to see if there used to be a hole...
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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You could add accessory yellow lights on the license plate frame. Made a huge difference getting dumb drivers behind us to notice the signals.
On our 63 SC just added lights like that and a set of LED tiny bullet lights in the bottom bolts of the frame. Even though the LEDs are 12 volt, work great on the 6 volt system.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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Nah... I got the new euro units fitted already... they look great and everything works, so no problem with any of that,
A direct line from the brake switch to the lights was all it needed.
I am just plotting fitting the hazard switch.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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Some pictures of the 'missing' switch area... Looking closer at the wiring it certainly seems that the switch was just pulled out, and is that some sort of 'patch' over the back of where the hole was?
I don't have the red flasher on the left hand side... should the DC have this too?
Oh, also... could I use a wiper switch for the emergency flashers? I have one. I don't have a flasher switch.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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Oh, also... could I use a wiper switch for the emergency flashers? I have one. I don't have a flasher switch. |
No. Those are a four terminal switch. A lot of volks and even shops sell them as wiper not knowing or caring what they really have.
As for the red light pop your camera up under the left side of the speedo and take some images.
The "Progressive Refinements" page posted on page 1 of this thread shows model and when the flasher light was started in USA destined buses.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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ok... so I DID have a flasher... view from behind the fuel gauge
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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Oh, also... could I use a wiper switch for the emergency flashers? I have one. I don't have a flasher switch. |
No. Those are a four terminal switch. A lot of volks and even shops sell them as wiper not knowing or caring what they really have.
As for the red light pop your camera up under the left side of the speedo and take some images.
The "Progressive Refinements" page posted on page 1 of this thread shows model and when the flasher light was started in USA destined buses. |
here are my switches... the OG wiper switch, and a new replacement... so I can use the new one as an emergency flasher switch right?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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here are my switches... the OG wiper switch, and a new replacement... so I can use the new one as an emergency flasher switch right?
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Exactly, because that new one is the flasher switch.
You can probably take apart your OG wiper switch and fix it. Helps to solder either of those switches between each rivet and terminal to get rid of any corrosion in there.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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cool. thanks sir.
another question... looking at your picture and looking at nlorntson's picture,
both switches are wired differently.
which is right?
and... there is an extra wire not on the wiring diagram I am using... I assume this is for my missing warning light?
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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For this switch it doesn't matter what terminal goes where:
There are not terminal designations that I can see.
My DC is an April 1963 build with the 1-ton package if it matters. The only difference I see is the red wire and on mine, that wire appears to be grayish but it could be overspray from a PO paint job.
I would say that in both pictures the gray wire that is on the double wire connector is what heads over to the light on the dash. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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Yes, if important to have exact wires on each terminal then each terminal will have a terminal number. Below is Beetle ignition switch.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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great. Thanks for all your help!
I never knew that about terminal designations... now everything suddenly makes more sense!
Now to find a light in the classifieds.
If someone would be able to measure the hole and pm me the results it would be most appreciated... oh and also a measure of where the light should go, the welded patch on my dash is a bit bigger than the OG hole methinks
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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great. Thanks for all your help!
Now to find a light in the classifieds.
If someone would be able to measure the hole and pm me the results it would be most appreciated... oh and also a measure of where the light should go, the welded patch on my dash is a bit bigger than the OG hole methinks |
Here's one but a crazy price I think:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1907630 |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Hazard flasher switch location |
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I have bought from Jake before, $50 sounds OK to me.
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