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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha! Yeah I don't think I'd say she'd let me rebuild anything on the kitchen table!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tiny little carb can't hurt, that's what I said! My brother once assembled a complete SAAB engine on the living room floor, during christmas. We grew up in a house that was for living in, not for show.

I saw your other posts, really nice. You share your experiences, ups and downs, in a really personal way. So nice that you got to show the red 70 to dad before it was too late. I bet he was proud.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was very proud of that little red beetle. I thank you for the compliment. I try to make my experience read well. Not to bore but maybe help those that are tackling a project or thinking of it. It's just fun for me. My wife calls them "winter therapy"
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the new bumpers look great!!! Any price difference from the WW bumpers??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah. They were $649 for the pair. 694.27 delivered to my house. Stainless steel (which I supposed to never rust). The WW ones are 359 for the front and 419 for the rear. With shipping WW is 858.91 delivered.
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The Diamond has been sitting all week long. Last weekend, I pulled the fuel pump. No gas leaking through...good. Carburetor next: float bowl off first. A slight seepage of gas out of the needle valve. But the float and level of gas in the bowl was okay. I did find debris above the needle valve and quite a bit in the float bowl under the float.

Cleaned all the crap out and changed the oil. The oil had a definite gassy smell. So based on what I see, I'm gonna have to look deeper. After sitting all week I got out this morning. Cold soaked motor, 5 am, 33 degrees and 78% humidity. Car started literally on the first bump of the starter. Drives well to work and home.

He's still leaking some kind of oil from between the motor and transaxle. And the oil has a definite gassy smell still. I'm not gaining oil though, so that's a bonus. I'm thinking the gas smell could be blow-by. I'll run a compression test tomorrow. It's weird, the car runs very well. Plenty of power for a 40hp motor and has no problem getting up to top speed of 72mph. I believe the debris in the float bowl happened because I stupidly ran for about a week without a filter while I was relocating the filter out of the engine bay.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update. The Diamond has been driving well off an on since my last post. I've determined it is definetely transaxle oil leak. I went ahead and adjusted the valves today and topped off the transaxle. It took about 1/2 a quart. When the weather warms up a tad more and I have more free time, I'll pop the motor out and see if I can figure out where this leak is. Dwell is sitting rock steady at 49 degrees and timing was off just a tad... But not anymore.

We had some unseasonably warm weather last week and I drove the Diamond a few days. The heater/ defrost works great. Radio is working great and windshield wipers function okay in light rain. I did notice some sputtering problems in the warmer humid weather, but it never died. Just an annoyance. Probably just intake icing up.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tune up did the trick! Saturday, the SEVWA hosted a drive-in at the local Steak and Shake. I thought I'd take the Diamond out for a little bit.
All cleaned up and ready to go
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This car caught my eye. A lot of color in that paint job
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Shortly after 4pm there were about 20 cars present.
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This is one clean '59!
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Original but dirty 36hp motor
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The interior was super clean though
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And the final pic I took. About 25 cars at this point. By the time I left at 6:30pm there were closer to 40 cars there.
That's the Diamond next to the Vanagon.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 months later and still going strong! Using no oil, and plenty of power. I did replace the axle boots last weekend and I'm happy to say no little oil droppings in the driveway since
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I just read your thread from start to finish...... Phew!

Absolutely awesome. You are informative and honest. You have quite a dry sense of humour (you'd fit in Down Under Wink ) which makes for interesting reading.

Great restoration, great story. Well done, mate! Cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, mate! Of all the places I've been, I do believe Australia was my favorite. Been to Richmond, Darwin and Alice Springs. Though Alice Springs was a beautiful place the bugs made it hard to see anything!
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Thanks, mate! Of all the places I've been, I do believe Australia was my favorite. Been to Richmond, Darwin and Alice Springs. Though Alice Springs was a beautiful place the bugs made it hard to see anything!



Ah, so you know Richmond - I'm assuming because you went to the Airforce base seeing as you're an aircraft tech??!!

Yes, the Northern Territory is pretty bad for bugs and such (the such being Salt Water Crocs..... Laughing ). Makes things interesting if you're camping near a waterway in that part of the world.

I just bought a fairly original '58 RHD German import to Australia, so Ive been on a learning curve this past week..... As Everett says, I'm a bus guy. However, I'm keen to learn about Beetles.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. RAAF Richmond. We stayed in Pennrith at a place called Panthers. Darwin was nice, but we were cautioned about the Crocs.

I used to be a bus guy myself. I've owned a '66 Kombi, a '73 Westfalia , but my fav was a '63 Microbus.
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It makes me slightly I'll to think of what I sold her for and why, but water under the bridge.

I'm starting a 58 myself, I'll check out your topic! Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Indeed. RAAF Richmond. We stayed in Pennrith at a place called Panthers. Darwin was nice, but we were cautioned about the Crocs.

I used to be a bus guy myself. I've owned a '66 Kombi, a '73 Westfalia , but my fav was a '63 Microbus.
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It makes me slightly I'll to think of what I sold her for and why, but water under the bridge.

I'm starting a 58 myself, I'll check out your topic! Cheers!



Yes, bus prices have gone mental! Shocked

I just sold my very rust free '59 15 window deluxe to help finance our new house. I know I will regret it but I still have my '59 fully restored truck, so I'm happy with that. And of course, the '58 Bug I just got Cool


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On another note, I loved reading about your Moroccan Beetle. The history and story these old air cooled machines could tell us.......
That's a great story!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 2 months ago I was still fighting the occasional stalling issue. As I was approaching a stop and pushed the clutch pedal down, she would stall. So, I pulled the carburetor apart and removed all the jets, blew out the passages and then reassembled everything.

Let me tell you, wow! Just wow! I drove her up the road to a school, about 1 mile from the house, and she ran great! Acceleration, deceleration, clutch in/out didn't matter. I turned her back to the house and as I pulled in to the subdivision something let go, "BRAT-TAT-TAT-TAT" and so on. Definetely metallic coming from the #3 cylinder area. Well, I shut her off and coasted home, pulled in the driveway and parked her.

Was having a tough time selling my red bug, so I drove Red for a little while, and then 2 weekends ago I decided to pull the 1600 out of Red and put it in the old girl. Everything is almost a direct swap except the rear tin. I tried running the 28PIC carb with the cast iron dizzy but that made the 1600 run lean, so I pulled both and went back with the 009 and H30/31 combo. It works well, but I'm still working some of the "bugs" out.

Meanwhile, we're buying a house, so the 1200 is on the engine stand awaiting an autopsy. We close this Friday, so between house hunting and work, no time to do anything with it. That and I'd rather lose bits and pieces at the new house as opposed to this one. Once I tear into it, I'll post an update.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Well, it's been awhile. I put the 1600 cc motor from my Dad's car in the Diamond along with the 6 volt bits from the 1200 and I've been driving her ever since. Bought a house September 25th and have been busy unpacking. Happy to report the 1600 is nice and strong and after a few tweaks of the carburetor and timing she is just as reliable as the 1970 was. A little sluggish to start when she warms up, but otherwise hits on the first crank.

I'm also happy to say that I'm getting 27.5mpg out of her and that's not too shabby. I sold my father's bug (see his build thread) and after seeing what the new owner, Robert, did with the paint on the '70, I decided to try some of his tips out on my badly oxidized paint. I'll take some pics when I get a chance, man it shines.

I did hit a milestone last week and got some pics of that...
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yes, that is 66,000 original miles. I kid you not!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

So, the 1600 runs an 009 distributor and an H30/31 carburetor. It's always had the standard hesitation when pulling away in first gear. Not terrible but annoying. I decided to order an SVDA for it.
The SVDA had issues right out of the box, but I decided to give it a shot anyway. Issue number 1: the vacuum advance was inoperable. I pulled the e-clip off the breaker plate and it works. Stuck it back on and it worked, so I went ahead and ran it.
Issue number 2: what do I time it to? I opted for 7.5 degrees. The idle was good but it hesitates really bad. Sometimes it feels like its surging at highway speeds. I fiddled with mix, checked dwell, timing and I just couldn't dial it in. On a whim I decided to rev the engine and check dwell.

It was a true "Aha" moment. The dwell fluctuates at least 5 degrees when revving the motor. Brand new distributor with lateral play in the shaft. I swapped the 009 back in and like magic, she runs like a top again. After all the carb adjustments the hesitation is gone. With the slip in the distributor shaft this thing couldn't keep point gap to save it's life. Timing was really variable and the result? It ran like doo doo.

Now we'll see what the seller does to make it right. That would be CIP1
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

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So, the 1600 runs an 009 distributor and an H30/31 carburetor. It's always had the standard hesitation when pulling away in first gear. Not terrible but annoying. I decided to order an SVDA for it.
The SVDA had issues right out of the box, but I decided to give it a shot anyway. Issue number 1: the vacuum advance was inoperable. I pulled the e-clip off the breaker plate and it works. Stuck it back on and it worked, so I went ahead and ran it.
Issue number 2: what do I time it to? I opted for 7.5 degrees. The idle was good but it hesitates really bad. Sometimes it feels like its surging at highway speeds. I fiddled with mix, checked dwell, timing and I just couldn't dial it in. On a whim I decided to rev the engine and check dwell.

It was a true "Aha" moment. The dwell fluctuates at least 5 degrees when revving the motor. Brand new distributor with lateral play in the shaft. I swapped the 009 back in and like magic, she runs like a top again. After all the carb adjustments the hesitation is gone. With the slip in the distributor shaft this thing couldn't keep point gap to save it's life. Timing was really variable and the result? It ran like doo doo.

Now we'll see what the seller does to make it right. That would be CIP1


You should contact "TASB" on this site. He rebuilds and sells original VW distributors on this site. The 205K or 205T distributor is a vacuum only advance distributor and work great with that H30/31 carb. I run both of these distributors that I rebuilt myself. They are SSOO smooth and responsive. I think he sells them for around $80 bucks. Much, MUCH better quality that the new, Chinese craptastic distributors sold today.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:47 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

I'll do that Bill, thanks! One thing on here, if nothing else, is your advice is rock solid. I was also reading this thread, http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1...mp;start=0

Lots of great info there. I'm thinking I'll just return this dizzy and get hold of Tasb.
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Well, I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, but here goes. This car had a 1200 in it up until a few months ago. When I bought the car, it had an 009 distributor that did not work very well. And wanting it to be "period correct" I researched the correct distributor and bought one. A Bosch ZV/PAU 4R2. I also found that Autozone sells an identical cast iron distributor so I got that one as a spare. Truth be told the AutoZone one worked better than the Bosch, so I ran that one until the motor went kaput.
Once that happened I swapped the 1200 out for a 1600. Most all the bolt on stuff moved over to the 1600 (generator, gen pedestal, carb and distributor). Outward appearance I was after was 1200 with 1600 pep. Unfortunately, the 28pict is way too lean for the 1600, and this in turn made the car, well, kind of gutless. I popped out the cast iron dizzy and the 28PICT. In went the H30/31 and the 009.
So, I've been running the 009 on the 1600 and tweaking things until I got 27.5mpg out of her. And never one to leave well enough alone, I thought I'd try out an SVDA on the 1600. See above...bad out of the box. Also, pulled the trigger too fast. An SVDA and an H30/31 are not a good match. Today after answering Bill above, a light popped on in my head. I've got these two vacuum only distributors in my garage not being used.
They are both bench set up with hold down clamps already installed. Dwell and timing set. And in the tech section here is a tune up parts chart that also gives specs on nearly if not all VW distributors. The 009 I've been running is set at 30 degrees advance and falls at 7.5 degrees at idle. So, 22.5 degrees. The vacuum only ZV/PAU 4R2 is set for 18+/-3 degrees advance.
I stuck it in the car and she runs great. Static time is 10 degrees and at idle it's about the same, maybe a tad under 10. As I raise engine speed timing advances slowly up to 30 degrees on the dot. Car runs cool as well, no pinking and no hesitation. It is also not gutless.
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